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The closest I would suggest to your view was the laws used by Nazi Germany for babies born out of wedlock with one Jewish parent post 1936 babies born prior to that date were classified as Mischlings. They were in your terms spared. So I come back you are defining who is Jewish to suit your agenda and suggest any other view is wrong let me think if I can come up with another example , what about Labour deciding what is antisemitism. The level of contortion that you and others are going through to protect the tarnished Labour image is reaching new heights. |
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So MP of Jewish heritage says Labour like Nazis- A Ok Holocaust survivour says Israel like Nazis- NO WAY! ?
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Here is an article that I think is more useful in relation to Hodge's comments in terms of what she actually said, why she said it, and what it means in terms of the jewish community's reaction to Corbyn's words - To view the link you have to Register or Login I'd also like to add that I wish Corbyn supporters would exercise some of the same skepticism and caution to mainstream news articles about Corbyn as they do to this critics - as right-slanted news organisations do sometimes vastly inflate their statements to make trouble in the Labour party.
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Lets be clear on this there have been many examples of antisemitism on here certainly a number of posts would not pass the IHRA with or without the amendments by Labour.
Only once have I asked the mods to look at it which was a direct attack at a personal level it was dealt with. I will ague with anyone on here I will make very clear if they are overstepping the mark but I am not going to complain at every post that fails the IHRA my choice on using the board and how I do things. As I have said before I will have a drink with any of you (this season as we are moving closer to Selhurst I am hoping to get to a game or two) sure things get heated on here but so what , however if you dont want a drink because of what I type on antisemitism then trust me I dont want a drink with you either. |
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because it's more complicated than that when it comes to the pro Palestine movement and the ways in which the Israeli state use the conflation to justify horrific violence.
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You know thats anti-imperialism in air quotes and to do with regressive leftist attitudes towards Jewish people and the United States, stop being silly.
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As I also said the Jewish victims of the Nazis were still oppressed, despite not meeting the Heb/North Herts Jewish criteria. As for skin colour, it was blatantly obvious that there were loads of undertones to Jaqi Walker not being Jewish, and her being black. |
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It's not that you shouldn't highlight and call out Anti-Semitism within the pro Palestine movement and its not that it should be claimed it doesn't exist but Hodge is making the argument, intentionally or not, that all pro Palestinian activists verge on anti-antisemitism and that it starts the argument that all pro Palestinian activism to a degree is racist.
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None of which means of course that there is any necessary nexus whatsoever between being pro the Palestinian cause and being anti semitic. Some try to exploit it for political reasons;others try to negate or downplay it for political reasons. Neither of which means its a non issue with elements of the party at this time Last edited by legaleagle2; 17-08-2018 at 03:05 PM. |
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It's true though. As true as it is for any other passionately held cause where fervour sometimes strays into prejudice. Why would that be a problem for feminism, antiracism and leftism but not pro-Palestine(ism)?
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