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If we had Alli instead of Zaha this year, we’d be worse off.
That doesn't exactly reveal who's a better player though, does it? I think we'd be worse off if we had Toni Kroos instead of Zaha.
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Ali is supremely overrated. Still we young though
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Zaha better than Alli

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He's way better, stop sucking up the hype.


Alli put a ball through for a goal the other day and the commentator considered it 'class'. It wasn't, it was basic and ordinary. Wilf on the other hand set up PVA with a sublime reverse and BLIND pass into space. Alli wouldn't have been capable, he'd have already been pre-occupied working out where he can dive.
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Nothing special here, and he doesn't have 2 or 3 on him at all times.


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Old 25-03-2018, 12:34 PM
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Wilf is a match winner for any club. He can make something out of no where.
A cross, draw a foul, beat a player, create some space, make an attempt on goal, he can do it all. If he could just score more he’d be up there with the best.
Just look at Pogba this year, he’s literally done nothing. Who would you rather have?
We’ve been carried by Wilf for the last couple of seasons and if we manage to stay up it’s down to him.
He’s worth big money and a top club will come in for him. I just can’t see another arguement.
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Nothing special here, and he doesn't have 2 or 3 on him at all times.
Is that not because they have other players like Kane and Eriksen that also need to be marked?!
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Wilf is a match winner for any club. He can make something out of no where.
A cross, draw a foul, beat a player, create some space, make an attempt on goal, he can do it all. If he could just score more he’d be up there with the best.
Just look at Pogba this year, he’s literally done nothing. Who would you rather have?
We’ve been carried by Wilf for the last couple of seasons and if we manage to stay up it’s down to him.
He’s worth big money and a top club will come in for him. I just can’t see another arguement.
The main point is that I can't see a team stumping up what we value him at.

That is then the big dilemma for the club and Wilf.
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Is that not because they have other players like Kane and Eriksen that also need to be marked?!
Dont be silly! Spurs are a one man team
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Old 26-03-2018, 03:09 PM
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Is that not because they have other players like Kane and Eriksen that also need to be marked?!
That is exactly the reason of course, but nevertheless he isn't special. I would like folk to pick their favourite star of a big club and ask themselves, honestly, how they think they'd perform with 2 or 3 permanently on them, kicking away.

Salah is one of a handful that might handle it, Hazard too, but MOST, including Alli, would just lose the ball time and time again.
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The main point is that I can't see a team stumping up what we value him at.

That is then the big dilemma for the club and Wilf.
Not really. We just pay Wilf what he needs because we can't replace him, and he'll sign.
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Old 26-03-2018, 03:19 PM
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That is exactly the reason of course, but nevertheless he isn't special. I would like folk to pick their favourite star of a big club and ask themselves, honestly, how they think they'd perform with 2 or 3 permanently on them, kicking away.

Salah is one of a handful that might handle it, Hazard too, but MOST, including Alli, would just lose the ball time and time again.
Mane and Lukaku would be fine, they had 3 players on them most games at their old clubs and were still class. De Bruyne had it at Wolfsburg, yet carried them on his back to a title and won the Bundesliga player of the year award. Silva has an uncanny ability to find space, so 3 players wouldn’t even be able to stay on him. Hard to judge with the likes of Kane, Ageuro and Sane, but I think they could handle it. I’d back Wilf ahead of someone like Sterling though.

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He's better than Alli. Alli, like Mahrez, doesn't have 3 players on him constantly
Because Tottenham & Leicester have other players for opponents to worry about so can't afford 3 on Alli or Mahrez. Kind of supports the point that get one or two extra quality players in our side and it'll make us far better as Wilf will only have 1 or 2 on him not 3.
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Because Tottenham & Leicester have other players for opponents to worry about so can't afford 3 on Alli or Mahrez. Kind of supports the point that get one or two extra quality players in our side and it'll make us far better as Wilf will only have 1 or 2 on him not 3.
Not sure I’d really agree with that assessment of Mahrez to be honest, who else is there to worry about in the Leicester side? Vardy is effective but one dimensional, and lots of his service comes from Mahrez, Gray is still at the young and inconsistent phase, if Albrighton is a threat who needs 2 or 3 players on him, so is Townsend as they’re pretty similar in play style and quality (although I prefer Andros).
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Because Tottenham & Leicester have other players for opponents to worry about so can't afford 3 on Alli or Mahrez. Kind of supports the point that get one or two extra quality players in our side and it'll make us far better as Wilf will only have 1 or 2 on him not 3.
Again, I didn't ask for an explanation as to why he has 2 or 3 on him, only that he actually does and is still a threat, and top clubs generally don't have this issue.
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Again, I didn't ask for an explanation as to why he has 2 or 3 on him, only that he actually does and is still a threat, and top clubs generally don't have this issue.
As good as he is in tight spaces, decision making is lacking from time to time. There are bits of his game he still definitely needs to improve, and still can. I'd say that any transfer fee would still be substantially based on potential.

But his ability to beat a man is crazily good. No one's mentioned that it's not all to do with pace and acceleration like sterling, he can beat players, from a standing start, without even moving particularly fast.
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As good as he is in tight spaces, decision making is lacking from time to time. There are bits of his game he still definitely needs to improve, and still can. I'd say that any transfer fee would still be substantially based on potential.

But his ability to beat a man is crazily good. No one's mentioned that it's not all to do with pace and acceleration like sterling, he can beat players, from a standing start, without even moving particularly fast.
I agree with everything that you say here apart from the bit about the transfer fee being substantially based on on potential. His improvement over the last two seasons has been remarkable in terms of goals, assists and ball-carrying. I totally agree with you that there is more to come - but if it does come then he will be a £100m + player rather than a £50m + one.
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He's way better, stop sucking up the hype.


Alli put a ball through for a goal the other day and the commentator considered it 'class'. It wasn't, it was basic and ordinary. Wilf on the other hand set up PVA with a sublime reverse and BLIND pass into space. Alli wouldn't have been capable, he'd have already been pre-occupied working out where he can dive.
I love Wilf and clearly he is more skilful. However Alli is clearly the better overall player and much younger.
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I couldn't disagree more (except for the skill bit). I gave some reasons and examples, you've given your opinion without anything else. So let's hear why...
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I couldn't disagree more (except for the skill bit). I gave some reasons and examples, you've given your opinion without anything else. So let's hear why...
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Right. And what have we been saying?

How much would Alli get in our side and vice versa?
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