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Old 14-03-2018, 12:11 AM
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Old 14-03-2018, 02:17 AM
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You dont think they would have just dug a hole and bundled him into a car then? All seems a bit smeary and porton down to me.
Not if your goal was not really about murdering an ex-agent but to sow chaos and dischord in society, in a way exactly mirroring the discussion on this board. If that was your goal you could use a nerve agent that few people have and can therefore prove. You then might ask for a sample of it which you can then deny generating an us against them situation. Then you could generate dozens of alternative narratives some of which play strongly to your own electorate, until eventually no one knows who to blame everyoneís head is swimming and society is just fighting amongst itself. Of course this could just be alternate facts too. Who knows?
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Old 14-03-2018, 05:53 AM
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Whatever the truth is of this whole situation - who knows? But one thing is sure, the way our Government are posturing with their aggressive rhetoric is absolutely disgusting, irresponsible and designed to inflame an already very sensitive situation. Falls perfectly into the laps of the more jingoistic sectors of our media, and some of the reporting and language on the situation I’ve seen so far is so one sided it’s embarrassing.

You can’t help but feel your being minipulated to help achieve some financial end no doubt.
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:09 AM
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Not if your goal was not really about murdering an ex-agent but to sow chaos and dischord in society, in a way exactly mirroring the discussion on this board. If that was your goal you could use a nerve agent that few people have and can therefore prove. You then might ask for a sample of it which you can then deny generating an us against them situation. Then you could generate dozens of alternative narratives some of which play strongly to your own electorate, until eventually no one knows who to blame everyoneís head is swimming and society is just fighting amongst itself. Of course this could just be alternate facts too. Who knows?
Why the hell would they do it ahead of presidential elections or the world cup though. Makes no sense at all. Agree totally with Nick. The whole thing stinks. Whens kristallnacht?
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:50 AM
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I suggested anyone that believed these conspiracy stories needed medical help - you were apparently so offended by that that you deleted the posts.

Very odd Slimbloke? I think youíd have a great time in Russia spending your days denying (entirely inoffensive) free speech.

Come on now - drop the personal grievance and relax.
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:52 AM
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Whatever the truth is of this whole situation - who knows? But one thing is sure, the way our Government are posturing with their aggressive rhetoric is absolutely disgusting, irresponsible and designed to inflame an already very sensitive situation. Falls perfectly into the laps of the more jingoistic sectors of our media, and some of the reporting and language on the situation Iíve seen so far is so one sided itís embarrassing.

You canít help but feel your being minipulated to help achieve some financial end no doubt.

Wtf! So you think we should roll over and allow Russia to murder our citizens as they wish? Bonkers.
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:54 AM
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Why the hell would they do it ahead of presidential elections or the world cup though. Makes no sense at all. Agree totally with Nick. The whole thing stinks. Whens kristallnacht?

Doing ahead of Presidential elections is exactly the point! It galvanises domestic support for Putin at a time when Russia is falling apart.

Now please drop this nonsense Elgin. Frankly itís offensive to those of us who work or have worked for HMG and ultimately itís downright stupid.

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Old 14-03-2018, 07:03 AM
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Why the hell would they do it ahead of presidential elections or the world cup though. Makes no sense at all. Agree totally with Nick. The whole thing stinks. Whens kristallnacht?
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:07 AM
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Now please drop this nonsense Elgin. Frankly itís offensive to those of us who work or have worked for HMG and ultimately itís downright stupid.
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:12 AM
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:15 AM
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:16 AM
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So the deadline has passed with no response from Russia!
Well this will be interesting to see how the strong and stable Maybot responds,Boris can no doubt help her come up with a sensible plan
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Whatever the truth is of this whole situation - who knows? But one thing is sure, the way our Government are posturing with their aggressive rhetoric is absolutely disgusting, irresponsible and designed to inflame an already very sensitive situation. Falls perfectly into the laps of the more jingoistic sectors of our media, and some of the reporting and language on the situation Iíve seen so far is so one sided itís embarrassing.

You canít help but feel your being minipulated to help achieve some financial end no doubt.
Yeah but what? Of course the British state isnít above doing this, but what would it gain?Right now it looks isolated, ineffective and led by fools. Or do you think itís the secret services acting outside the aegis of the state?
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Yeah but what? Of course the British state isnít above doing this, but what would it gain?Right now it looks isolated, ineffective and led by fools. Or do you think itís the secret services acting outside the aegis of the state?

Fml of course the ďBritish State is above doing thisĒ. Not least because it would be illegal.

Where as this act is absolutely legal in Russian law.

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Two things about the current scenario,

Firstly, could this be May's Falklands moment?

Secondly. Putin has not only ignored May's deadline, but has told her not to threaten a nuclear state. This is interesting as he didn't worry too much about other competitive nuclear states who objected, when he annexed the Crimea, so why should he think mentioning that they have nukes is going to cut any ice in our case? Essentially, it is him that is threatening a nuclear state.
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