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Old 06-03-2018, 03:48 PM
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Boris Johnson has said that it is difficult to imagine our participation in the World Cup would go ahead in the normal way if Russia is behind this.
Gary Neville has just called Boris Johnson a tool on Twitter
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Not too sure the BBC is state media; you might have it confused with RT.
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Boris warns of robust sanctions and action against Russia if its proved that they are involved. Putin doesn't give a monkeys about his people. Complete nonsense.
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Boris could of course deal with all the dirty Russian money running through the City and chucking out the likes of Abramovich and co - but that would hurt the Tories pockets
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Boris could of course deal with all the dirty Russian money running through the City and chucking out the likes of Abramovich and co - but that would hurt the Tories pockets
But instead he offers up 'soccer' as a fop, in exchange for complicity.
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Heard some professor on R4 suggesting the bloke would not have been targeted by the Russians unless he became active in spying again.

Bullshit.

A) he would be of no use as a 'spy' when everyone knows his background

B) this is clearly a message being sent to say that it doesn't matter how historical or in what climate you operated in, or what the present holds.... If you shit on the KGB they will terminate you at some point
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Boris warns of robust sanctions and action against Russia if its proved that they are involved. Putin doesn't give a monkeys about his people. Complete nonsense.
I am not sure about trade sanctions but I would certainly support a measure to evict anyone named Boris from the country.
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On a serious note the convention is when you do a convicted spy swap, the individual is thereafter 'out of the game' and ceases to be a target.

It has always been so.

Not so with a defector, active agent, escapee etc. But this guy was caught, and presumably 'thoroughly debriefed' by the FSB and we exchanged him for one of theirs/ours so they can both live out the rest of their lives.

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I'd like to think so. Ignore first, then the polonium in his tea.
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Boris warns of robust sanctions and action against Russia if its proved that they are involved. Putin doesn't give a monkeys about his people. Complete nonsense.
What would you do then. Something would have to be done you can't just shrug your shoulders and move on.

Although it may not be from the Kremlin directly there is always the possibility that anyone he shopped or their friends may seek revenge. Either freelance or with FSB connections.

Its hard to see who else would have a motive.
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On a serious note the convention is when you do a convicted spy swap, the individual is thereafter 'out of the game' and ceases to be a target.

It has always been so.

Not so with a defector, active agent, escapee etc. But this guy was caught, and presumably 'thoroughly debriefed' by the FSB and we exchanged him for one of theirs/ours so they can both live out the rest of their lives.

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Yes.

So it may well be nothing to do with the Russian State (mine’s a pint, Elgin). Does not however rule out a Russian connection.
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Misha Glennie, a journalist who has written extensively on organised crime, was interviewed on R4 this morning and gave an interesting 'other view' to the episode:

Misha Glenny: Well Nick, this is a very important point because one needs to remember that when you have something like a spy swap, this is done as a deal, this is a protocol deal between the two intelligence agencies. Although we think of them as (being) thoroughly and always unscrupulous, they actually have rules of the road – a sort of honour among thieves, as it were. And so, it is very, very odd to see somebody like Skripal being targeted like this, and until we have some forensic evidence and proper circumstantial evidence, to accuse the Russian government or the FSB – the KBG – as having being involved in this, is absolutely premature. What does seem to be the case, is that Skripal would have been involved in something. I simply don’t buy the story that this is merely a revenge attack because it is a big deal if you were to take out a spy on British soil, who is part of a spy swap.

NR: When you say, involved in something do you mean something talked about in your book (McMafia)?

MG: Yes, so if Skripal was involved in anything – and I simply don’t know if he was – it is likely to be something to do with his stock-in-trade – which is the exchange, the buying and selling of information. And when you do that, you sometimes work with politicians. you sometimes work with unscrupulous economic actors, who may be on the dark side, who may be on the grey side – you never know.
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Misha Glennie, a journalist who has written extensively on organised crime, was interviewed on R4 this morning and gave an interesting 'other view' to the episode:

Misha Glenny: Well Nick, this is a very important point because one needs to remember that when you have something like a spy swap, this is done as a deal, this is a protocol deal between the two intelligence agencies. Although we think of them as (being) thoroughly and always unscrupulous, they actually have rules of the road – a sort of honour among thieves, as it were. And so, it is very, very odd to see somebody like Skripal being targeted like this, and until we have some forensic evidence and proper circumstantial evidence, to accuse the Russian government or the FSB – the KBG – as having being involved in this, is absolutely premature. What does seem to be the case, is that Skripal would have been involved in something. I simply don’t buy the story that this is merely a revenge attack because it is a big deal if you were to take out a spy on British soil, who is part of a spy swap.

NR: When you say, involved in something do you mean something talked about in your book (McMafia)?

MG: Yes, so if Skripal was involved in anything – and I simply don’t know if he was – it is likely to be something to do with his stock-in-trade – which is the exchange, the buying and selling of information. And when you do that, you sometimes work with politicians. you sometimes work with unscrupulous economic actors, who may be on the dark side, who may be on the grey side – you never know.
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