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Old 09-11-2017, 04:07 PM
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U-boats. You never mention them Chief. Would they have swayed any naval engagements in favor of the Kriegsmarine. My one doubt is the size of the u boat fleet in 1940. Maybe to small to have a really significant effect?
6 were sunk in the Norwegian campaign. It seems that c.20 were available around the commencement of the BofB, and never got above that number throughout the campaign. Losses outweighed production I believe.

Some were on convoy attack duty, so my presumption is they were not in real numbers in and around the Channel. The Royal Oak was sunk by U-47 in 1939 in Scapa Flow.

Edit - 7 U-Boots were lost during the BofB (May-Sep) (x2 North Sea, x2 Ireland, x1 North Atlantic, x1 Bay of Biscay, 1x Norway)
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The disposition of German naval forces for Sealion is detailed in the CIA release. It makes an interesting read...page 44...

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Additionally, Lend-Lease cost a fortune. IIRC the UK didn't finish paying for Lend-Lease until the late 70's or mid 80's. I also seem to remember that the UK was the only country to repay the US in full (although there was a hiatus during the early 70's).

EDIT: final payment was 2006!!
The interest rate on the loan was only 2% so for a lot of that time we were gaining by not paying it off.
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It is almost hard to comprehend the carnage that would have occurred to them in the channel had the Germans attempted a crossing. I think it would have been a victory greater than the defeat of the Spanish Armada.
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It is almost hard to comprehend the carnage that would have occurred to them in the channel had the Germans attempted a crossing. I think it would have been a victory greater than the defeat of the Spanish Armada.

I tend to agree.

It took years of prep for us and total air and sea superiority for Overlord. And it was still tough going against an enemy, fighting on two fronts, with a degraded infrastructure.
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In a similar vein, when the Berlin Wall came down and the DDR was incorporated into the Fed Republic of Germany, a colleague of mine stated that Central Germany had finally been reunited, and that only East Germany was now left.
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So, who won in the end?
Judging by their economies over the years since, I would say Germany and Japan.
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It is almost hard to comprehend the carnage that would have occurred to them in the channel had the Germans attempted a crossing. I think it would have been a victory greater than the defeat of the Spanish Armada.

Which even if the Luftwaffe had prevailed I'm not certain we'd have been invaded then.

A defeated RAF would mean the RN would have been nullified as a threat. Then a blockade becomes a more credible and far less risky option to force an armistice rather than launching and more importantly supporting a cross-channel invasion. As 44 showed, supply lines across a sea are difficult to maintain.

Starve them out. Thats what forced an armistice in1918.
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The average height change of children in Germany during WW1 is interesting, as food became scarce.
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Not sure. The Italian airforce attacked us during the BofB though!

Edit - can't see that the Germans supported any med action before 1941.

So, in summary, the impact was support to the Luftwaffe, not a reduction in their strength. ;-)
Looking further all detail i could find was
DECEMBER 1940

Sicily - The German Luftwaffe's X Fliegerkorps - including Ju87 Stuka dive-bombers - was ordered to Sicily and southern Italy to bolster the Italian Air Force.
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