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Old 15-02-2018, 05:56 PM
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No more Chelsea loans please, every one of them has turned out badly. Wonder how much we've dished out in fees and wages for Bamford, Remy and RLC? They must be laughing their t*ts off.
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Old 15-02-2018, 05:57 PM
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If he is not going to play, why can't we cancel his loan, and get in Nasri instead? (unless it with an option to purchase?)
We could get nasri I if we wanted. We obviously don’t want. Last time i saw him he was proper fat, but that was a couple of years ago. If he hasn’t been snapped up yet then there’s a reason. I.e. stay well clear
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:21 PM
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We could get nasri I if we wanted. We obviously donít want. Last time i saw him he was proper fat, but that was a couple of years ago. If he hasnít been snapped up yet then thereís a reason. I.e. stay well clear
Judging by the last few years, that ticks every box of our criteria.
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:25 PM
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If he is not going to play, why can't we cancel his loan, and get in Nasri instead? (unless it with an option to purchase?)
Because the rules do not allow us to?

Loans can only start and end within transfer windows. They can only be ended if all 3 parties agree so if he was known to be out for the season either Palace Chelsea or RLC did not want to cancel the loan.

As a side note the rules on cancelling a loan were created following the Marrow loan to Preston I believe.
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:28 PM
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Nasriís a free agent so would not affect any loan rules AFAIK
Yeah but was just wondering about the 25? If we just got Nasri anyway would he be allowed to play unless we got rid of one of the 25, or is it all too late now and inconsequential?
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:35 PM
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Yeah but was just wondering about the 25? If we just got Nasri anyway would he be allowed to play unless we got rid of one of the 25, or is it all too late now and inconsequential?
We could sign him as he was a free agent at the end of the transfer window/when our squad was submitted as long as there is room in the 25.

We have 24 players submitted so could get one free agent as above. We could not release or return a player in that current 24 to free up another space.
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:41 PM
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We could sign him as he was a free agent at the end of the transfer window/when our squad was submitted as long as there is room in the 25.

We have 24 players submitted so could get one free agent as above. We could not release or return a player in that current 24 to free up another space.
Thanks for the clarification. Diego Cavalieri it is then!
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Old 16-02-2018, 10:24 AM
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Old 16-02-2018, 10:34 AM
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In successive seasons, we've taken Bamford, Remy and RLC from Chelsea.....all on fat wages and for a variety of reasons, haven't given us a decent return on the investment
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Don't cry mate, we still have the option of trying 200 other loan players from Chelsea.
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Old 16-02-2018, 10:43 AM
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Do we not learn from previous f@@k ups of signing unfit no club players who will take until the end of the season and beyond to get match fit!!!
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Old 16-02-2018, 11:09 AM
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No more Chelsea loans please, every one of them has turned out badly. Wonder how much we've dished out in fees and wages for Bamford, Remy and RLC? They must be laughing their t*ts off.
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Old 16-02-2018, 11:16 AM
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My understanding of this is that the communication from Chelsea was poor with us and we were left in the lurch as to whether or not he will be fit for the rest of the season or not. Quite frankly once there was any uncertainty we should have terminated the loan and found someone else to avoid that happening.
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Old 16-02-2018, 11:21 AM
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Cant help but feel Chelsea knew he wasnt going to play again, so strung us along until after the window closed meaning we would have to cover the wages, rumoured 65k until the end of the season. Had we terminated the loan then Chelsea wouldve been responsible for his wages.
We couldn't terminate the loan unless Chelsea agreed to it too.

Loans are always full season or between transfer windows and can only be cancelled with all three party's consent.
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In successive seasons, we've taken Bamford, Remy and RLC from Chelsea.....all on fat wages and for a variety of reasons, haven't given us a decent return on the investment
It would be interesting/depressing to add up how many appearances these Chelsea loans have made in total, then work out the cost of their loan fees and wages.

I did think RLC had the potential to break our trend with Chelsea players though.

I’m not against us loaning players, but I think it’s wise to have just one in the summer window and then we have the opportunity to get a second loan in January if we need to address a particular problem then. Starting with 2 loans reduced our options.
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WTF is wrong with him. I don't remember him being injured in a match.
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Don't cry mate, we still have the option of trying 200 other loan players from Chelsea.
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I think he would be ideal for over seeing the transition to the championship. 9 players out of contract, get 3-4 high earners off the books. He'll need to build a whole team. If he decided to leave we'll be screwed imo.

He wonít play in the Championship. There would be a queue of PL clubs up for signing him based on that good game for England.
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Surely there would be a clause in the loan agreement stating that we can terminate (if within a transfer window) if the player is injured for a significant proportion of the season?
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