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Old 09-12-2017, 08:15 PM
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So the first real setback

Team______________Projected_____________Actual____ ________Target +/-_____________Overall
Everton (h)........................D...................... ......D............................0.............. .....................0
Stoke (h)...........................W................... ........W............................0............ .......................0
Brighton(a)........................L.............. ..............D.............................+1.... .............................+1
West Brom (a)...................D........................... .D.............................0.................. .................+1
Bournemouth(h).................W.................. .........L.............................-3..................................-2
Watford(h).........................W
Leicester(a)........................L
Swansea (a).......................W


I am a little concerned because I will admit when I sit down and work out the estimates I just put down what I think the results are likely to be and then tweak them until I get 39 points from the results. For the first time this season my first estimate was below the necessary total so I had to bump some of them up. Watford was one of those that I nudged from a draw to a win - doesn't mean we cannot do it because obviously we can but it does look like one of the harder wins and going further behind the target at this stage would not be good with the Christmas of death period approaching
We didn't lose.
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:23 PM
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We didn't lose.
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We didn't lose.
oops! Of course we didn't - it just felt like it in the way that West Ham felt almost like a win.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:23 PM
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After today's fiasco and the dropped points and with Sakho likely to miss the christmas period, combined with Dann's poor form and Tomkins injury problems, I think we are in big trouble.
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Old 09-12-2017, 10:34 PM
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Yeah it suddenly feels really bad. It's the same feeling as after the 4 nil Sunderland game last season. Defoe is a dark spectre for us.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:50 PM
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While it may have felt like a loss given the final moment of the match, we actually drew today vs. Bournemouth
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:26 PM
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Bournemouth are really not a bad side and are organised and competent and able to cheat

a point is really not a disaster

IF the benteke issue doesn't affect team spirit and morale
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:35 PM
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Bournemouth are really not a bad side and are organised and competent and able to cheat

a point is really not a disaster

IF the benteke issue doesn't affect team spirit and morale

We need to win at least 7 (probably 8) more games. Just can’t see where they come from now - we’ve wasted too many opportunities.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:08 PM
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Palace in spite of dropping points and going back to the bottom of the table are now only 3 points from getting out of the bottom 3 as we gained a point on West Brom and have now reduced the gap to them to just 2 points.

Next week these are the key mid-week games :

Palace v Watford
Swansea v Man City
Chelsea v Huddersfield
Spurs v Brighton
West Ham v Arsenal
Burnley v Stoke
Newcastle v Everton
Man United v Bournemouth

A Palace win could see us move up to 4th from bottom.

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Old 10-12-2017, 02:10 PM
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Anyone seen our run from Jan to April? Nightmare. That's why throwing away so many winnable home games could cost us.
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i forgot to mention another key game next week

Liverpool v West Brom
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:22 PM
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Palace lie 12th in the current form table which is better form than many of the bottom 10 teams.

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We've had easier games though.
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Palace in spite of dropping points and going back to the bottom of the table are now only 3 points from getting out of the bottom 3 as we gained a point on West Brom and have now reduced the gap to them to just 2 points.

Next week these are the key mid-week games :

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A Palace win could see us move up to 4th from bottom.

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I've been pretty optimistic so far but dropping points like we did yesterday is becoming too much of a regular occurrance. Its putting a real squeeze on the rest of the season.
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I've been pretty optimistic so far but dropping points like we did yesterday is becoming too much of a regular occurrance. Its putting a real squeeze on the rest of the season.
and now Sakho injury and the possibility now that Benteke will put even less effort in than he did before
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West Brom are currently 4th from bottom on 13 points which is just 2 points more than Palace on 11 points
If Palace can beat Watford then they would go above West Brom.

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West Brom are currently 4th from bottom on 13 points which is just 2 points more than Palace on 11 points
If Palace can beat Watford then they would go above West Brom.

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Assuming of course....we beat Watford.

It’s hardly done deal territory is it.
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Palace will probably need to win 7 more matches with 3/4 draws. That would total 35/36 points which might be enough. Whilst not currently adrift, the lack of resources in every position is the most concerning aspect of trying to make a case for Palace surviving this time.
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West Brom are currently 4th from bottom on 13 points which is just 2 points more than Palace on 11 points
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I think that ooh Betty's pedantic point is that fourth from bottom is actually 16th place as it goes bottom, next to bottom, 2nd from bottom, 3rd from bottom and then 4th from bottom. We would therefore need to go above Newcastle to be 4th from bottom. However everyone know what you mean - he is just being difficult. You are right and considering the opposition it is entirely possible we will be out of the relegation zone - even if it is only for a while.
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