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How many players has Pep brought through from youth teams and significantly improved.

How many players has Mourinho regressed or failed to get the best out of.



Mourinho wins trophies, Pep builds legacies.
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Mourinho wins trophies, Pep builds legacies.
That sums it up well. Winning trophies isnít as great as building a legacy, but it still deems success. Iím sticking with my aforementioned point of view. The main problem with Pepís sides is that theyíre rather one dimensional, so Iíd be very interested to see how heíd adapt with players who canít play dominant, possession football every match.
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That sums it up well. Winning trophies isnít as great as building a legacy, but it still deems success. Iím sticking with my aforementioned point of view. The main problem with Pepís sides is that theyíre rather one dimensional, so Iíd be very interested to see how heíd adapt with players who canít play dominant, possession football every match.
my disappointment with Man City's losses this season is how obvious the solution in a lot of the games seems to be, just go direct, bring on a big forward and try to force the issue, but Pep seemingly would rather lose than win like that.
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Yes, Porto. And I donít care how easy a champions league run that is, itís still a very impressive feat, with a team that had Benni McCarthy up front. Unless Pep does something at a team that isnít completely star studded (I doubt that heíll ever go to a team like that), Iíll always consider Mourinho a greater manager.
And the treble with Inter which are the only Italian side I think to do so, they also knocked out Chelsea and Barcelona and beat Bayern in the final to win the Champions League.
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I see him as a chequebook manager.

Give Mark Hughes a bottomless pit of £ and he would do similar.

Pep has never proved himself in a tough job to me, always going to teams who had the resources to win the league, rather than a middle tier team (eg Everton) and done it ther.e
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By far the best coach in the world. Difference between a coach and a manager. Guardiola is a coach and Mourinho is a manager. Just look at what he did at Barcelona. He got rid of some big name players there to bring through younger players like Messi for Ronaldinho, Deco for Busquests etc. Guardiola’s teams always play the best football and that’s down to him teaching them the right way.

If Rashford was being coached by Guardiola then England would have another quality forward in the summer
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By far the best coach in the world. Difference between a coach and a manager. Guardiola is a coach and Mourinho is a manager. Just look at what he did at Barcelona. He got rid of some big name players there to bring through younger players like Messi for Ronaldinho, Deco for Busquests etc. Guardiolaís teams always play the best football and thatís down to him teaching them the right way.

If Rashford was being coached by Guardiola then England would have another quality forward in the summer
Put him in charge of Huddersfield and they'd have been down by Christmas.
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I see him as a chequebook manager.

Give Mark Hughes a bottomless pit of £ and he would do similar.

Pep has never proved himself in a tough job to me, always going to teams who had the resources to win the league, rather than a middle tier team (eg Everton) and done it ther.e
'Sparky' had a crack and ****ed it up royally. He's not good enough to manage at the Elite level.

PG's style is suited to the big teams. I doubt he could have taken us over and turned around our seasons like Roy, Tony or BFS did, but likewise none of them look like they would succeed at an elite level club.

Murhinio is one of the few Managers i think would have succeeded at any level, at least up until a few years ago when he disappeared up his own arse.
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And the treble with Inter which are the only Italian side I think to do so, they also knocked out Chelsea and Barcelona and beat Bayern in the final to win the Champions League.
That was a great Inter side to be fair. Eto’o, Lucio, Sneidjer (should’ve won the balon do’r thar year to be honest,) Maicon, Zanetti, Julio Cesar etc. Nowhere near as good as Barca though, the only team Pep has won a treble with.

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Mourinho wins trophies, Pep builds legacies.
What legacy has Pep left any team he has managed? Bayern a few years later have gone back to the one who actually set their legacy Jupp Heynckes and Barcelona had it all in place before Pep. City have no history and no legacy and will use their endless pit of money to buy one but it isn't real.
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Hes such a great man-manager. The likes of Sterling, Fernandinho and even De Bruyne have improved so much this season compared to how they played last season, under manager Pep Guardiola.
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He's a petulant twat, I know that. Losing his rag on the rare occasions his team loses (see Wigan, Liverpool) & still defiantly wearing that ******* yellow ribbon. Don't like our rules, mate? **** off then.
I made this somewhat flippant remark earlier. Look, I appreciate he's got City playing some amazing football.

But I do think he's somewhat graceless. And all this 'Pep Guardiola: The Man City manager described as football's Che Guevara' from the likes of the BBC is inappropriately sycophantic & fawning.

I'd love to see him manage Clough's Forest to see what kind of a tune he'd get out of Larry Lloyd, Ian Bowyer, John McGovern & Tony Woodcock. Clough was a genius.
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He inherited a squad with some very decent players in it and has spent £448m adding to it.
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What legacy has Pep left any team he has managed? Bayern a few years later have gone back to the one who actually set their legacy Jupp Heynckes and Barcelona had it all in place before Pep. City have no history and no legacy and will use their endless pit of money to buy one but it isn't real.
wont people be talking about tiki taki for decades to come? thats quite a legacy, City are and were before 2008 a grand old famous club with Championship wins and other silverware, the era of Joe Mercers team of Bell,Corrigan,Booth,Doyle,Summerbee,Lee etc left a great legacy indeed, people even today still talk about Dennis Laws back heal that relegated ManUre 40 odd years later.
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I see him as a chequebook manager.

Give Mark Hughes a bottomless pit of £ and he would do similar.

Pep has never proved himself in a tough job to me, always going to teams who had the resources to win the league, rather than a middle tier team (eg Everton) and done it ther.e

LOL

Oh dear, you do realise that Mark Hughes was the Man City manager once and was given similar resources?! He was sacked after a year
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wont people be talking about tiki taki for decades to come? thats quite a legacy
Cruyff's tactic that Pep perfected, but maybe not:

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