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Old 16-04-2018, 02:32 PM
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Its probably standard foreign office advice for travel to many countries, KoW is careful not to reference the source.
I don't think it is standard at all, though nor is it from the centre. It looks like it was put together by Jamaican NGOs and the High Commission to try and help, because they're the ones who will be dealing with these cases at the other end, once these people land in a country they don't really know and no longer have any links to.

Possibly stuff has been locally produced in other locations where we're heartlessly deporting long term residents to countries they left 50 years ago, but I can't think there will be many with such volume.

It really is shitty. The vile product of the anti-immigrant crap that has been allowed to fester for so many years.
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Old 16-04-2018, 02:35 PM
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Ah. Skint will believe it now.

When I posted the same story from the Guardian a month ago he couldnít wait to tell us how naive we were and how it was a non story....
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Old 16-04-2018, 02:40 PM
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Ah. Skint will believe it now.

When I posted the same story from the Guardian a month ago he couldnít wait to tell us how naive we were and how it was a non story....
I would expect nothing less, from that poster. Every post he writes, shows him/her, a heartless bastard.
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Old 16-04-2018, 02:42 PM
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The reason? The Home Office can find no record of Albert, 63, who was born in Jamaica, in its files. He lost the Caribbean passport he arrived in the UK with some years ago.

Its something that has to be checked, it would only take a few days to do so.

Albert Thompson is a made up name, its not possible to find if he is receiving treatment or not but I very much doubt that he isn't.

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Old 16-04-2018, 02:43 PM
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The reason? The Home Office can find no record of Albert, 63, who was born in Jamaica, in its files. He lost the Caribbean passport he arrived in the UK with some years ago.

Its something that has to be checked, it would only take a few days to do so.

Albert Thompson is a made up name, its not possible to find if he is receiving treatment or not but I very much doubt that he isn't.

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Old 16-04-2018, 02:48 PM
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Dreadful story. Policy put into law by May when she was Home Secretary and is a punch in the stomach to every Brit of Caribbean origin.

It's been in operation for a while but the coverage until the Guardian ran the story has been at a local level. The South London Press has highlighted several cases locally. People have been detained and banged up in detention centres.

For Downing Street to pretend that this is the first they've heard of it is a downright lie as MPs from both sides of the House have raised the issue on a case-by-case basis. And civil servants would have pointed out the consequences of the changes at the time they were made but she chose to ignore them. Another one of those cases of moving further to the right to appease Tory voters switching to UKIP.
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Old 16-04-2018, 02:50 PM
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I would expect nothing less, from that poster. Every post he writes, shows him/her, a heartless bastard.
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Old 16-04-2018, 02:58 PM
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I don't think it is standard at all, though nor is it from the centre. It looks like it was put together by Jamaican NGOs and the High Commission to try and help, because they're the ones who will be dealing with these cases at the other end, once these people land in a country they don't really know and no longer have any links to.

Possibly stuff has been locally produced in other locations where we're heartlessly deporting long term residents to countries they left 50 years ago, but I can't think there will be many with such volume.

It really is shitty. The vile product of the anti-immigrant crap that has been allowed to fester for so many years.
Now that KoW has linked we can see its not about deportation at all but for people moving to Jamacia, many go back in retirement.

All that should be happening is a paper chase to show who they are, which should be straightforward, tax, driving, credit cards, doctors, and many other things will show who they are.

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Old 16-04-2018, 02:59 PM
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Bit early to be on the sauce.
Not seen Wolife go past on that list or anyone else from the sainted BBSers go bye. Is the story not worth a fiver.
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Old 16-04-2018, 03:00 PM
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Now that KoW has linked we can see its not about deportation at all but for people moving to Jamacia, many go back in retirement.

All that should be happening is a paper chase to show who they, which should be straightforward, tax, driving, credit cards, doctors, and many other things will show who they are.

Calm down ladies.
Misogynistic as well.

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Old 16-04-2018, 03:01 PM
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Consequence of the populist immigrant bashing era we live in....something to be truly ashamed of
This coupled with a 'urge' to produce figures to please the anti-migrant crowd (who frankly would complain until everyone who spoke with a foreign accent or skin tone was gone), tied with the ever popular make it easier to deport x, has led to a situation where we're effectively persecuting people who should be British citizens - and when they try to object, we demand an unreasonable burden of proof.
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All that should be happening is a paper chase to show who they are, which should be straightforward, tax, driving, credit cards, doctors, and many other things will show who they are.
Calm down ladies.
Wrong (again).

None of those are proof of status, which is a problem if you came over here when you are a child in the 60's on your parents passport.

And this little cock up is not helping things:

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It's a shame to see the way Skintagain is getting chastised for the opinions being shared.

It is unsympathetic and is the kind of attitude we have allowed to fester in this country for too long. That being said I don't think this needs to be aggressively adversarial.
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Wrong (again).

None of those are proof of status, which is a problem if you came over here when you are a child in the 60's on your parents passport.

And this little cock up is not helping things:

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As unfair as that may be he seems to have over 35K on fundraiser so surely that's been done.
I would like to know if he's getting any treatment, I just don't buy this story.
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Appalled by this. I have become more and more disenfranchised by our government and parties but who the hell gets my vote next time? Conservatives have traditionally got my vote but with the Brexit, and the complete misery that this austerity is bringing and the xenophobic nastiness that is appearing means they wont get my vote again. Corbyn. No thanks completely barking, albeit with a couple of good ideas. Libs what hope, Greens ???
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As unfair as that may be he seems to have over 35K on fundraiser so surely that's been done.
I would like to know if he's getting any treatment, I just don't buy this story.
What story aren't you buying?

That people who have lived here since childhood, who have gone to school here, worked and payed taxes here, are not now facing deportation?
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What story aren't you buying?

That people who have lived here since childhood, who have gone to school here, worked and payed taxes here, are not now facing deportation?
That they need to provide documentation for every year that they have been here?

I know that I could definitely not do that, but somehow we expect them to, out of the blue.
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What story aren't you buying?

That people who have lived here since childhood, who have gone to school here, worked and payed taxes here, are not now facing deportation?
The Albert Thompson story. Kind of hard to check on as the name has been made up. Show me some evidence.

I'm not convinced about the deportation bit either when it just a matter of coming up with paperwork. It all seems to me to like a story to titillate Guardian readers.
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