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Old 16-04-2018, 04:18 PM
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Until you have to deal with the Home office you have no idea. They are a lethal cocktail of incompetence, pettiness, expense and you are wrong unless you can prove in triplicate that you are right. They are your worst nightmare on steroids.

I wouldn't say they are shocking they are far, far worse than that. But I can understand why most reasonable folk see these stories and think no, no, that's not possible no British government department would operate like that. Because no other department would.
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Old 16-04-2018, 04:24 PM
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The Albert Thompson story. Kind of hard to check on as the name has been made up. Show me some evidence.

I'm not convinced about the deportation bit either when it just a matter of coming up with paperwork. It all seems to me to like a story to titillate Guardian readers.
There’s been an admission by government that British citizens have been wrongly deported! What do you need to be convinced?!?
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Amber Rudd says that her department's treatment of the Windrush generation has been "wrong" and "appalling". So at least she is wiser, more clued up and more empathetic than skintagain.

But it's an odd admission for a Minister to make ; especially when the whole policy was devised (against CS advice) by former Home Secretary Theresa May.

I'd sack the lot of them and appoint Duncan Bannatyne.
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The care homes crook?
Exactly.

Better a crook than an incompetent.
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I think this the most consensus I've seen on an immigration issue. Maybe the Gurkhas got similar, but still, msssive cross-party support

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So it's made by the "Rehabilitation and Reintegration Programme" and partners.

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Depressing that 12% of Labour voters say they don't know. What's not to know?
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There’s been an admission by government that British citizens have been wrongly deported! What do you need to be convinced?!?
Where have I said they haven't been wrongly deported?
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Old 16-04-2018, 04:55 PM
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Interesting that it's not aimed specifically at UK returnees. I'd have thought the bulk were ours but I realise thinking about it I have no justification for that assumption.
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Depressing that 12% of Labour voters say they don't know. What's not to know?
there are xenophobes and closet racists on both sides of the fence unfortunately.
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there are xenophobes and closet racists on both sides of the fence unfortunately.
Oh yes. I just expect it less in Labour
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And do you dispute this?

Earlier this year, the Labour peer Lord Faulkner raised the case of Paulette Wilson, a former cook at the House of Commons, who had come to Britain from Jamaica in 1968.

"(She) had never applied for a passport because she assumed she would not need one if she did not intend to travel abroad," he told the House of Lords.


"One day, she got a letter from the Home Office telling her to register each month at the Solihull immigration centre.

"While she was there on a visit, officials declared that she was an illegal immigrant, had her carted off to the appalling Yarl's Wood immigration removal complex and told her that she would be deported - presumably back to Jamaica, which she had not visited since she left as a child almost 50 years before," he added.

She was saved from deportation by the intervention of her MP, Emma Reynolds, and the Refugee and Migrant Centre in Wolverhampton.

She has now been given leave to remain, said Lord Faulkner, "although she has lost benefits for the past two years, as well as her flat, and has to rely on financial support from her daughter".
WTAF???

Disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful.
It's the guilty until proven innocent stance that is really revolting.
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What about guilty unless it’s in the Mail?

This is a big issue. People in this country are brain washed.
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Oh yes. I just expect it less in Labour
There's always been racist socialists but I'd argue that it's a lot to do with how we understand class in a modern context politically. I could chat about that for hours though and it'd probably be boring to anyone but me.
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