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Should've read this before I posted. Spot on.
Let's hope people see that and move on from this - we can't let what happened with FDB get in the way of everyone rallying round the club, starting on Saturday.
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So whoever comes in has to indulge the egos of the likes of Delaney Kelly and Chong Yong lee in order to keep there job? Ridiculous. Also getting affronted because de Boer took part in a few training games? Pathetic. What a bunch of precious overindulged wankers
A bloke called Coppell used to take part in training matches. Was the best on the pitch apparently. He was a useless **** too.
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Has anyone stopped and thought for a second that maybe de Boer was just a massive ****?!
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So what happens when the next manager realises that Delaney, Kelly, Ward are all not good enough... do they go crying to parish again. Pathetic.
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If we had a team of Joel Wards we wouldn't be in this mess.
Or in this division!

He tries hard, and I like him for that, but he's a limited footballer and seemingly reached his peak 3 seasons ago.
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So what happens when the next manager realises that Delaney, Kelly, Ward are all not good enough... do they go crying to parish again. Pathetic.
Have you thought it's not the fact he didn't think they were good enough, but perhaps the manner in which he went about stating that fact was the actual problem?
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Has anyone stopped and thought for a second that maybe de Boer was just a massive ****?!
If he was, what does that make Delaney, Kelly, Lee etc?
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Obviously you don't want out of control player power (Sunderland being the classic example) but when we have a good manager, a good shape, good tactics and proper training our team performs really well. I like this bunch of players - I think they want to win games. If they think the manager is preventing them from doing that I don't see any problem with bringing it to the board. They clearly could not play FdB's system...
The players didn't want to work for Allardyce either. He even came out and said as much, Parish even had to go in the dressing room and put a rocket up em, after yet another dreadful performance.
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So what happens when the next manager realises that Delaney, Kelly, Ward are all not good enough... do they go crying to parish again. Pathetic.
Maybe we should make Damo manager, he seems to want to undermine anyone else doing the job.
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If he was, what does that make Delaney, Kelly, Lee etc?
People who dont like a ****.
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Or a bunch of primping twits who don;t like the truth.
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For me, distilling all this shit down to something I can make sense of, is, de Boer made some ludicrous team selections. Square pegs in round holes, odd omissions and inconsistency.

If this was the result of all the unrest, I can kinda get it.

Something went majorly wrong between the introductory chats between him and Parish. Die diligence for 6 weeks my arse.
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Have you thought it's not the fact he didn't think they were good enough, but perhaps the manner in which he went about stating that fact was the actual problem?
Ahh poor little spoilt millionaires. Pampered and allowed to do whatever they wanted under Pardew and didn't like a few home truths.

Have you actually thought that we took 5 weeks making a decision on the manager and this might have been known beforehand (if true). He has been a manager for 6/7 years with a track record and a style that is unlikely to have changed overnight.
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Or a bunch of primping twits who don;t like the truth.
Like I said there is telling the truth and then there is making people look like and feeling like complete shit in front of their peers and team mates.

His man management is absolutely appalling.
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Townsend is a great example - give him a decent manager and a game plan and he gives everything for the cause. What is Benteke supposed to think of FdB's system?

Pulis gave every player a job and created a real team. Allardyce knew how to get the best out of big egos and play our team to its strengths.

This is football at the top level - you have to have a manager who can manage premier league footballers...
Well at least Benteke is consistent. He makes no effort regardless of who the manager is.
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Like I said there is telling the truth and then there is making people look like and feeling like complete shit in front of their peers and team mates.

His man management is absolutely appalling.
How do you know he said it the way it's been alleged? How do you know it's not just the players running to SP whining that the "nasty man was horrid to me"?
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How do you know he said it the way it's been alleged? How do you know it's not just the players running to SP whining that the "nasty man was horrid to me"?
Because this seems to be a recurring theme with de Boer now.
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How do you know he said it the way it's been alleged? How do you know it's not just the players running to SP whining that the "nasty man was horrid to me"?
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This is not Parish or the players fault.
Most have given their all for 5 seasons in the Prem.
Then some mad as a box of frogs Dutchman comes along and systematically destroys the whole set up of the team, harmony of the club and splits the fan base, is just meant to be left alone to get on with it, resulting in 0 points, 0 goals and relegation.
When you have a cancer you find it early and cut it out.
Thank god it was found early and we have plenty of time to recover.
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