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Hennessey 0 0%
Patrick van Aanholt 102 17.80%
Tomkins 3 0.52%
Aaron Wan-Bissaka 396 69.11%
Kelly 0 0%
Milivojevic 16 2.79%
Townsend 17 2.97%
Schlupp 7 1.22%
McArthur 13 2.27%
Sorloth 8 1.40%
Benteke 9 1.57%
Riedewald 2 0.35%
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He'll do us fine in the Championship.
I thought as a target man Sorloth was decent and he managed a few on target shots and was able to release the pressure well. I just think he tired after 60 minutes and that's when we should have gone 4231/451.

I can see Hodgson playing 442 with essentially almost the team we had out today and swaping Andros and Wilf from the bench and Jimmy and Cabaye from the bench and Sakho starting alongside Tomkins.
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Hennessey 3- Not a keeper.
PVA-8 great going forward
Kelly-6 ok
Tomkins -7 lost concentration at vital moment
Wan-Bisaka- 9 what a prospect!
Townsend-8 ran around a lot tonight
Luka-7- wish he'd charged toward his mate Matic a bit more fiercely
McArthur-7- Solid
Schlupp-7- worked hard
Benteke-7.5 worked hard and unlucky not to be a hero tonight
Sorloth- 7 I thought he did well, but tired towards the end
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AWB was easily MOTM.

Luka, if i'm being harsh, should have got closer to Matic to stop the shot. Didn't close him down.

The Lukaku goal was stupid to concede. He had so much time to score....

Sorloth is not ready to play these type of games. He's been thrown in the deep end and expected to do the job of an experienced striker.

Benteke was ok. Set up Townsend, almost scored but for a world class save from De Gea.

Good to see Schlupp back.

We aren't using subs and yet we looked knackered in the last 10 minutes.
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For the last ten minutes I would have possibly taken Benteke off and put a faster forward on the pitch. Sadly, I'm not sure if we had anyone like that on the bench or currently in the squad and fit who could have done this role.
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Great effort from the scratch side.
Absolutely gutting to lose to ManUre yet again.
Wan-Bissaka is an emerging talent and there were other good performances all over the pitch.
In the last 20 minutes, Mata came on and United swamped the midfield.
With Soroth tiring, Roy definitely should have replaced him and beefed up the midfield numbers. Rakip or Souare would have added fresh legs on the left side and allowed a 5 man midfield line up to match up with the All-stars.
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I don’t want to be unkind as he’s young and raw or too premature but I don’t know from what I’ve seen Sorloth offers. I thought he came with lots of energy but he doesn’t. AWB was superb. I’m absolutely gutted and we all knew we would lose this but f—k we know how to lose hard. As always, it’s the f—King hope that gets you.

We have to drop Wayne though and try the new keeper. He’s a liability with zero confidence.
I just watched the game again and Sorloth continually held the ball up and brought players into play far better Than Benteke who lost the ball a lot of times and never ever won it. Sorloth does at least tackle.
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Hennessey 6
AWB 9 - MON - this kid has quality
PVA 8 - great finnish
Tomkins 8 - one mistake for the 2nd goal otherwise class
Kelly - 7
Luca 7
Macca 7
Schlupp 8 - looked fit and played well
Townsend 8 - lively
Sorloth 7 - like him - have a good first touch and is powerful running at players
Benteke 7 - played well. Stunning save by De Gea

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Just saw the 3rd again luka bottled it
100% - Matic should never have got his shot away as Luka was slow to close down and never quite got in line. Then he turned his back. Sure Luka was wrecked by then and didn't expect Matic to hit such a peach having played alongside him for years. But unfortunately it sealed the match and he won't sleep well tonight, or enjoy the walkthrus.
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So proud of the lads. Super performance. Game hinged on their first goal, and then on Hodgson not making the sub sooner, but the truth is we lost because our squad is decimated by injuries and there simply aren't enough options for Roy to call upon. Cannot fault any of our efforts:

Hennessey 4 Flapping all over the place, one or two decent saves

PVA 9 MOM Pretty good defending, oozes class, so intelligent and aggressive with his movement to intercept when they have it and to find space when we have it. That goal epitomised what he is all about: the way he drives at the opposition when he gets time on the ball is a joy to watch. Top drawer finish. A proper technical footballer as well. Love him.

Tomkins 7 Apart from crucial error for their first playing them on he was magnificent

Kelly 7 Aggressive and defended well.

Wan-Bissaka 9 Where has this guy come from? Wow, he can defend; superb in the tackle, strong and not bad in the air. And he is comfortable on the ball. Right back for next season for sure.

Schlupp 8 Won so much ball. Tired, but that's understandable. Gave us the pace we lacked in the last game

McArthur 7 Worked hard, some good moments some average moments.

Milivojevic 7 Gave it everything. Works hard to break it down; lacks pace when the game opens up.

Townsend 8 Thought he was terrific. Put some good balls in, scored (albeit with a deflection) and showed his incredible engine yet again. If you give him support he has the class to produce. Linked well with AWB

Benteke 8 Worked his nuts off, oozes class on the ball. So unlucky with the header - any other keeper and that's a goal. He didn't score but that performance will shut a lot of people up.

Sorloth 6 Huffed and puffed. Strong, but not yet ready for the Premier League. If only he could display the same workrate as Benteke

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but felt he was bright - good passing and breaking up the play.

Hodgson got the starting XI tactics spot on. Shame he can't react to where a game is going. But to be fair to him we have such a thin squad. A very encouraging performance. But we need points. Badly.

I don't get the Sorloth Comment. I thought he made less errors than Benteke. He also seemed to work to track back more.
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Hennessey 4- not in any way shape or form a premier league keeper
PVA-6 looked good going forward but the amount of times he let Lingard overlap him because he was dragged in the middle was madness and United kept overloading us
Kelly-5 Championship footballer who can do a job
Tomkins-6 you can see that he's technically very good but his mental attributes let him down
Wan-Bisaka-8 phenomenal performance
Townsend-7- you know exactly what you get and it works or it doesnt
Luka-7- thought we saw a lot more of Luka today and was pleased
McArthur-7- Wiley and professional display
Schlupp-7- really good performance consider he was rushed back
Benteke-7- great work for the goal and really put a shift in, still utterly frustraiting
Sorloth-6.5- not ready for the PL at all, but does a job, nowhere near fit

Fragility mentally let us down and when United realised we were brittle and just piled bodies forward we couldn't cope. Squad is far too thin, Parish has made an absolute hash of recruitment and we're left with tired, fragile players who have to play so far above themselves to match a team like United that they are gassed by 70 minutes.

Roy needed to make the sub 10 minutes earlier.

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Thought we did all right with the team we put out . Wan bissaka very good. This lad could save us a couple of bob in the transfer market if he maintains this level.The timing of his tackle on Rashford was top draw. And **** me but does Mata love playing against us. Missed the first 10 minutes so did not know what the benches were. Soon as he came on I just knew what was going to happen.
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Thought we did all right with the team we put out . Wan bissaka very good. This lad could save us a couple of bob in the transfer market if he maintains this level.The timing of his tackle on Rashford was top draw. And **** me but does Mata love playing against us. Missed the first 10 minutes so did not know what the benches were. Soon as he came on I just knew what was going to happen.
They have Sanchez and Lukaku as well. Lots of players that like to score multiple goals past the statue.
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Benteke was a lot better last night but I'm surprised to read that he 'oozes class on the ball'.

In the cold light of day I do feel that our lack of late substitutions was a factor, although options from the bench were very limited.
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I'm sorry but Sorloth was very good today. Was puffing last 15 mins but understandable.
Could agree more...the number of times he brought the ball down under control found space, and played a player in, can't wait for that player to be Zaha. His presence as part of a front two gave United something to think about, and made Benteke play better than he has for ages. We look like we have a threat without Zaha.

Not the complete performance, some of his headers were a bit weak, and yes no shot on goal....but this was against United, and it's only his 3rd game. Anyone dissing his performance and not seeing that he has all the attributes toi be a really good footballer are probably the same people un-impressed with Andy Johnson's first games

He'll be a major player for us
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