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Old 21-08-2016, 08:18 AM
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Now benteke has signed im hoping it will bring the best out of wilf. In that he will run at his man, beat him then look to find benteke and/or wickham if playing. Benteke feeds off wingers providing decent service so hopefully they complement one another.
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Old 21-08-2016, 08:20 AM
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Old 21-08-2016, 08:22 AM
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I think that at the moment Wilfs issue is that he has no confidence playing of his left foot. He is going to find himself more often on the left now that we have Townsend. If he could learn to cross well and consistently with his left foot he will be a great player. I know he has the capability to do this.
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Old 21-08-2016, 09:13 AM
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I can't quite believe this thread exists. Criticising one of the most exciting players we have ever had, the homegrown talent that got us promoted and brought us in millions. The player that has grown in front of our eyes from a skinny 16 year old to the ultra fit and incredibly hard working star that he is today.

Zaha is irreplaceable on the pitch and in the heart.

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Old 21-08-2016, 09:53 AM
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2 goals and 2 assists all last season .No end product.

Hes reached his "peak". Hes 24 not 19.
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Old 21-08-2016, 10:11 AM
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2 goals and 2 assists all last season .No end product.

Hes reached his "peak". Hes 24 not 19.
23 actually.

Why ignore the FA Cup where he scored and created more goals? I constantly see people taking about Gayle being put top scorer because he scores hat-tricks against lower league teams in the league cup, let's not ignore Wilfs contribution in getting us to the FA cup final.

Citing basic stats like this don't take into account games like West Brom home, Watford away where he destroyed full backs, won penalties and the game.

He constantly skipped past players in the middle of the pitch yesterday and started attacks. A couple of times he did check back rather than putting the cross in early but then it there was usually only Wickham to aim for. He did the right thing later on when he checked back and picked out Puncheon on the edge of the box.
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Old 21-08-2016, 10:28 AM
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2 goals and 2 assists all last season .No end product.

Hes reached his "peak". Hes 24 not 19.
Again people quoting meaningless stats. The assist stats are meaningless as they are dependant on the recipient of the pass being able to find back of net. Not down to the player providing pass. If I pass to man 35 yards out and he let's fly and scores i get an assist. If I put through the same player with a slide rule precision pass one on one with keeper and he fluffs it.....I dont get an assist. Bit like wickets in cricket. I could bowl like crap and get wickets because fielder pull off brilliant catches or bowl superbly and the fielders keep dropping easy catches. Stats are so misleading....Like liverpool with 80% possession yesterday. Only one that mattered was burnley had 2 goals

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Old 21-08-2016, 10:51 AM
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I put Wilf and Yala in the same category. No end product. Once in a while Bolasie would put one in the back of the net, but obviously it wasn't frequently happening for him. Same for Zaha, really. I'm hopeful that this year, at some point the light bulb will go on for Wilf and he'll start picking up his eyeballs to find someone... but for now, it's absolutely maddening to watch him do all this and have no end product at all.

I know for me, personally, I used to have the same problem. I was blessed with a sudden first step, and I used to try to beat defenders like Wilf. Obviously, I didn't play in the Prem, but the same idea holds true regardless of the difference in ability level. It's that moment, when you find yourself in possession with a bit of space around the 15-20 yard range... instead of prematurely deciding to pass or shoot, you've got to pick your head up and look. There's no way to teach it. He has to figure it out, find that feel for the moment. You only get a split second to realize, "this is the moment to look." I'm 34 now, and I obviously can't play on the wing or up front anymore. What I wouldn't give to be young again knowing what I know now, and I hope Wilf figures out sooner than I did.
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Old 21-08-2016, 11:01 AM
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Maybe the club should employ a specialist coach to work with him 1 on 1, he clearly has talent but is nowhere near where he should be.

The worrying thing is he doesnt seem to be able to teach himself, or watch other players and learn.
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Old 21-08-2016, 11:05 AM
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Taylor was class as you well know. Good enough for England (more than one cap) and good enough for Tottenham before injury took its toll.

Vince? Yep deffo better than Wilf. He had a footballing brain and was no headless chicken.

And Irvine could cross a ball to a player wearing the same team shirt.
Mate you are clueless I said Taylor was good but he played for us in div 2&3 and when he played for England that team was worse than the sack of shit that lost to Iceland i.e. Couldn't qualify for the World Cup. Vince better than Wilf? As I said I loved the guy but he could neither shoot or cross so take a look at his career when he left Palace down and down and Irvine again the records don't lie he played for us in div 2 and then went backwards from there.

I am not in anyway decrying any of them I rated and cheered them all and Taylor would make it into my top two ever teams but that doesn't mean that Wilf won't either.

It is simply excruciatingly embarrassing to have a thread like this and people like you moaning about a player who has been brilliant for us for five years but has had a couple of bad games.

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Whilst I think pony is a big exaggeration I do think he's overrated by many on here. He's a mid table Premier League player, nothing more nothing less.
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The doubters forget how young he is. Still such a special player. You'll realise what a huge miss he'll be if/when he goes.

Hopefully he'll never visit this site to read the crap that's written about him.
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Has this place ever had so many idiotic posts? I used to think our fans were down to earth, realistic and reasonable... Is that what being in the premier league has done?
Loads of tiresome trolls on here now I think, plus people who ain't done much Palace time spouting spoilt plastic type 5hit.
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Old 21-08-2016, 11:17 AM
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The doubters forget how young he is. Still such a special player. You'll realise what a huge miss he'll be if/when he goes.

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He isnt that young

he has played over 200 games now and he still plays like a raw kid thats been plucked from purley way playing field a few days before.

At 24 years old surely he should be able to shoot cleanly? or deliver a cross?

If it was my profession id be out there practicing 100 crosses a day, he should be practicing on the left so he can go both ways past a defender.
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I don't get this love for him the bloke is bang average. Terrible attitude and has no basic football intelligence needs replacing.
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I really can't understand people getting on Wilf's back. i spent about thirty years watching this team without seeing a single player who could beat a man ever and suddenly we get one from the youth who drives us into the premier league with mesmerising skills and perhaps changes our fortunes for ever. People on here then come out with the garbage on here, a disgrace frankly coupled with almighty ignorance.
He was also by no means the worst performer today, he set up chances, went on a few mazy runs and as always got the full back booked. We'll be playing against 10 men a lot as ever because every full back gets at least a booking when up against Wilf and you can be sure every team will be doing everything they can to shackle him, they identify him as a major threat. I'd suggest they probably know more about it than the people spouting utter garbage on here.
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He isnt that young

he has played over 200 games now and he still plays like a raw kid thats been plucked from purley way playing field a few days before.

At 24 years old surely he should be able to shoot cleanly? or deliver a cross?

If it was my profession id be out there practicing 100 crosses a day, he should be practicing on the left so he can go both ways past a defender.
He can go both ways past a defender. Where have been for the last few years? If he was a perfect player he wouldn't be with us. The lad has just become a Dad too. Maybe he's not sleeping, and it's making him a bit rusty.

I don't get the constant need to slate players who are obviously trying their best to get this football club winning games. Publicly putting them down offers nothing positive whatsoever. Maybe it just makes you feel a bit better.

He's the most exciting winger I've seen play for our club, and I really think some of our fans take him for granted.
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