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Old 13-07-2004, 10:26 PM
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Welcome to… BBS Folk Club

Just got the freebie CD of stuff that influenced Led Zep being given away with this month's Mojo (yet another brilliant job by their compilers).

It has Bert Jansch, John Renbourn and John Fahey on it and the more I hear these guys, the more I like. Jansch in particular is top stuff, I know he's been name checked by Johnny Marr, Noel Gallagher and others, but I didn't really know his music. He should be a lot better known.

When I was young I often used to go with my uncle, a hopeful acoustic guitarist/siinger/songwriter (and dyed in the wool 60s hippy) to folk clubs, just to keep him company when he played. I have to say the clubs were universally dismal, underpopulated by tatty, unkempt people with no discernible musical ability or taste and forsooth it verily set my mind against folk, which seemed to me to be a lifeless form.

But, would you believe it, I seem to be coming over all 'hey nonny nonny', and if this sudden liking for Renbourn's Maid of Bedlam or Fairport Convention's Matty Groves carries on I can see myself ending up with a pewter tankard behind the bar, a finger in my ear and a hankering for sea shanties.

Anyone else got folky tendencies? I'm always up for a bit of musical mind expansion, so welcome to BBS Folk Club a place to light a candle, recommend a tune, cuddle up with a comely wench (with not too many warts), sink a pint of mead and confess.
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Don't knock it till you've tried it Al!! I'm with you Tony... folk has this really bad image but there are some real gems in the folk archives. People who can really play their instruments and have done the hard graft on the club circuit, If you ever get the chance check out Show of Hands... Phil Beer and Steve Knightley - absolutely fantastic. To view the link you have to Register or Login
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Now that you mention it …

I am moving house at the end of this month so a couple of weeks ago I took loads of my old stuff out of storage, including my LP collection. Among them are ones by Fairport, Bert Jansch and Pentangle. I’m obviously a bit on an old hippy myself. However, the best one, and the one that made me wonder how I had managed to survive 20 years without hearing it, is Joni Mitchell’s Blue. What a stunning album, as fresh and emotional as it was on the day it was released. I think I am about to spend a fortune buying all of her stuff on CD’s.

I was really stuck by the eclectic nature of my LP collection – assembled between the ages of 14 to 21. Er, several years ago now. Every type of musical genre represented from classical to folk, jazz to progressive, hard rock to punk, Cole Porter to Motown and rock & roll to pop. I’ve obviously become very narrow minded and boring over the years.
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Forgive my lame joke, toucaneagle.

You're undoubtedly right, folk has had a dismal image and I'm as guilty as any for dismissing it out of hand (Dylan aside). As I said the folk clubs I occasionally frequented could have been Fast Show parodies. Maybe my recall is dodgy but if you'd picked up an acoustic guitar in the late 70s people would think you'd taken leave of your senses, but I think there has been some kind of reappraisal (or maybe that's just me).

It's funny how things go. I could never get into jazz, but eventually found at least some areas I liked, the same has happened wiith classical music, and now I'm wondering what I've missed folk wise. One day I might even have to bite the bullet on country music
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Yes, there was a lot of dross in the folk clubs – especially the member’s spots. I still managed to see some amazing performances for the price of a pint or two. John Martyn, Allan Hull, Jack the Lad, Planxty, and Martin Carthy spring to mind immediately.

Also, in the seventies there was no standup comedy clubs so the folk clubs were an outlet for some of this kind of humor. Mike Harding stands out as the funniest man I have seen live. His “folk” set consisted of two 3 minute songs with a 57 minute introduction each.
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Yes, I've been tempted by the folk devil myself. I know someone who's good on the guitar and who goes to a lot of folk events. I went to one with him a few months ago and I'm afraid it put me back against the whole thing - if anyone broke the silence during someone's set, there was hell to pay. It was worse than at some jazz clubs. Maybe I was unlucky. Agree with you about Bert Jansch, though.
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Used to go every week to Hoddeson Folk Club and also Ware Folk Club in Hertfordshire.

Remember many a fun evening spent seeing Al Stewart, Roy Harper and The Incredible String Band. Happy hippy trippy days.

Fairport Convention used to put on a free concert some place - think it was Much Hadham, or something like that.

Oh yes and then there was Nick Drake, sad loss.
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Never had much time for folk music (assuming I know what it is).

What did it influence Led Zep to do - stuff like Bron Y Aur and Gallows Pole from Led Zep III?
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(Although it was funnier the first time)

I presume you've seen "A Mighty Wind", Christopher Guest's parody of the folk music scene, featuring one of the BBS's leading lights.
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Mojo free CD's are generally excellent compilations; the 60's Immediate label one put out a few years ago was one of the best.

Bert Jansch, John Renbourn - brings back memories of the 60's. First saw them in a church youth club in South Croydon back in 64 or 5 when they had been given a half hour slot. The session lasted for much longer; those guys were seriously good.
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What did it influence Led Zep to do - stuff like Bron Y Aur and Gallows Pole from Led Zep III?
The battle of evermore (I think that is what it's called) on Zep IV. Sandy Denny sang with Fairport Convention and had a very successful solo career as a folk singer.
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Top song from a top album. Leige & Leif (No not THAT Leif!) is a great record. Check out Farewell, Farewell. Sandy Denny's voice is sublime. Mary Black doesn't make a bad job of it either.
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