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Old 30-01-2006, 10:50 AM
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Stark Warning on Climate Change

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It's all getting shitty and f*cked up. Top scientists predict sea level rise of 7m in next few hundred years, but i'm convinced that spf's 'concrete sea wall' ideas can be extended from the maldives to the entire coast of Florida, where it doesn't get much above a few metres anywhere in the state.

Significantly, this point....
"Currently, the atmosphere contains about 380 parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide, the principal greenhouse gas, compared to levels before the industrial revolution of about 275ppm"

"For achieving the two Celsius target with a probability of more than 60%, greenhouse gas concentrations need to be stabilised at 450 ppm CO2-equivalent or below," conclude Michel den Elzen from the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency and Malte Meinshausen of the US National Center for Atmospheric Research.

"A stabilisation at 450 ppm CO2-equivalent requires global emissions to peak around 2015, followed by substantial overall reductions in the order of 30%-40% compared to 1990 levels in 2050."

But, speaking on Today, the UK government's chief scientific advisor Sir David King said that is unlikely to happen.


"We're going to be at 400 parts per million in 10 years time, I predict that without any delight in saying it," he said.


"But no country is going to turn off a power station which is providing much-desired energy for its population to tackle this problem - we have to accept that.

"To aim for 450 (ppm) would, I am afraid, seem unfeasible."


A rise of two Celsius, researchers conclude, will be enough to cause:


Decreasing crop yields in the developing and developed world
Tripling of poor harvests in Europe and Russia
Large-scale displacement of people in north Africa from desertification
Up to 2.8bn people at risk of water shortage
97% loss of coral reefs
Total loss of summer Arctic sea ice causing extinction of the polar bear and the walrus
Spread of malaria in Africa and north America




What's your proposal Matov and spuff? Do you care at all about other species on the planet?
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Old 30-01-2006, 11:21 AM
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It's all getting shitty and f*cked up. Top scientists predict sea level rise of 7m in next few hundred years,
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Old 30-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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I'll match that.

What is your proposal anti-addick? Shall we all just kill ourselves now or shall we carry on scaremongering, panicking and wetting our pants for a bit longer?

I say let's get rid of all these greenhouses now. And these oversized garden sheds come home offices.
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Killing people is one solution, not only will they stop producing CO2 through activity but also through breathing.

Windfarms in spf's back garden would also be good, f*cking big ones too.
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"A stabilisation at 450 ppm CO2-equivalent requires global emissions to peak around 2015, followed by substantial overall reductions in the order of 30%-40% compared to 1990 levels in 2050."

But, speaking on Today, the UK government's chief scientific advisor Sir David King said that is unlikely to happen. "We're going to be at 400 parts per million in 10 years time, I predict that without any delight in saying it," he said.

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Have I read that right Anti, that one of them says we need to stabilise at 450 ppm C02 by 2015 to get things sorted whilst the other one says that we are going to be at 400 ppm in ten years time i.e. 2016 which is surely better than needed as stated in that article?

I'm confused
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Old 30-01-2006, 12:52 PM
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one of those comments that is actually strange but TRUE.

We're all living to long.
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What's your proposal Matov and spuff? Do you care at all about other species on the planet?
Of course not. It doesn't matter what happens once they're dead. Especially Matov....he'll be in heaven of course.
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Who cares about a few hundred years time? No one cares about the planet. From Bush downwards it is all about what we can for ourselves, and perhaps our children right now.

More and more people are spending the money their children may have hoped for an inheritence, so it is fair to say that many are not bothered about the next generation let alone ten generations time. Most households have at least two cars and in the UK it seems that cars, computers, home electronics must be updated as often as possible. Most of us want two or three homes, we are not willing to just holiday abroad we want to own a house there as well. Regardless of the fact that we may drain the last of the water away from Southern Spain, Portugal, Southern France and Italy in the process.

So I reckon lap it up and stop worrying. Make sure you get your kids through Uni and hopefully marrried off and then make sure you spend, spend, spend. As long as the resources don't run out in the next 40 or so years I couldn't care less. The shareholders of Ford Motor Co, Nestle, Shell Oil, McDonalds and a multitud of others haven't cared less for decades, why should the little guy.
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That's the kind of attitude we like to see PeterH, Greenpeace must be delighted that not only do they have to fight governments and multinationals but they also have you too. From the posting you just made, you really are a 'little guy', a real quitter.


Jonezee, you wouldn't do a thing even if I did manage to stop driving. When the water is lapping at the door of your offspring i'm cinvinced they'll blame New Labour.
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Have I read that right Anti, that one of them says we need to stabilise at 450 ppm C02 by 2015 to get things sorted whilst the other one says that we are going to be at 400 ppm in ten years time i.e. 2016 which is surely better than needed as stated in that article?

I'm confused
I think it stated that 450ppm is the max we can support which will still give a 2 degree rise, that's enough to melt the sea ice in the north (killing the Polar Bear in the process), but we will be at over 400 in ten years.

We're not on target, we're far off of it.
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Jonezee, you wouldn't do a thing even if I did manage to stop driving. When the water is lapping at the door of your offspring i'm cinvinced they'll blame New Labour.
Shows how much you know me then.

As for the water lapping at the doors of my offspring well for one thing I live on an erking great hill
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Jonezee, When the water is lapping at the door of your offspring i'm cinvinced they'll blame New Labour.
That's a great image.

I see Biffa Bacon-Jones shaking his fists at the immigrant water.
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Shows how much you know me then.

As for the water lapping at the doors of my offspring well for one thing I live on an erking great hill
Me too.

I predict a significant rise in the value of my house, so bring it on.
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Let me get this right. You want flooding to occur just so your house increases in value?

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Yes.

That's right.

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