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Good article with Simon Osborn and Bobby Bowry recounting their first impressions of Southgate. Includes a lovely anecdote about him throwing up on Noades in a lift after a night on the tequila.

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Didn't he step up to take that because other players, who should've taken pens, lost their bottle?
Paul Ince bottled it & he called himself the guvnor!
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Paul Ince bottled it & he called himself the guvnor!
Yep then went on to miss himself in '98.

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Paul Ince bottled it & he called himself the guvnor!
Also McManaman, Anderton and Adams.
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I think the issue for some with Southgate is

1 - He's openly and Utd fan
2 - He's never been gushing in praise of support for Palace, the team that gave him his chance
3 - His on screen persona is quite dower
4 - The way he left Palace.. he and many others (Chris Coleman) decided to move on due to how the club dealt with Alan Smith, many of who had great loyalty to him for bringing them through the ranks.

Having met him many times and been on many nights out with him at Bon Bonnies! He is far from dower, he is fun, humorous and very smart. Much more intelligent than your average footballer.

Hope he does well, it would make up for that Euro 96 miss! Was there any Palace fan watching that who thought he would score having seen him miss a few for Palace that season. Brave man to put his hand up though... take note Ince, Adams, McManaman, Anderton!
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I think the issue for some with Southgate is

1 - He's openly and Utd fan
2 - He's never been gushing in praise of support for Palace, the team that gave him his chance
3 - His on screen persona is quite dower
4 - The way he left Palace.. he and many others (Chris Coleman) decided to move on due to how the club dealt with Alan Smith, many of who had great loyalty to him for bringing them through the ranks.

Having met him many times and been on many nights out with him at Bon Bonnies! He is far from dower, he is fun, humorous and very smart. Much more intelligent than your average footballer.

Hope he does well, it would make up for that Euro 96 miss! Was there any Palace fan watching that who thought he would score having seen him miss a few for Palace that season. Brave man to put his hand up though... take note Ince, Adams, McManaman, Anderton!
Remember being up at Ipswich. 2-2...last minute we get a penalty...I’m doubly jumping up and down because I backed a 3-2 win at the bookies before the game. As I held my betting slip in hand, I watched Southgate make a complete mess of the penalty. Three years later, this certainly ran through my head as he ran up against Germany.

I also had the pleasure of talking to him at the Mitcham training ground when he was a youngster just pushing into the first team. Talked for ages and I have to say, he was one of the most down to earth players I’ve ever talked to. Seemed genuinely interested in what you were saying and was clearly a very bright young man.

For some reason since leaving Palace over the years, there’s been that perception that he doesn’t have much affection for the place. No one has mentioned yet that he was used by the FA to head up the unfair new academy category thing (FFRP?) a few years ago that quite clearly gave advantage to bigger clubs and put clubs like us, in the Championship at the time, at a very clear disadvantage. Can’t remember the technicalities now but it meant that we could lose some of our top kids coming through to big clubs for little reward.

Parish was obviously very vocal about his feelings against the system and I think it was Hol radio that had both Parish and Southgate discussing it. Gareth was clearly no match for Parish, and Parish basically ripped poor Gareth apart...nicely though. Was quite clear that Gareth was just acting as an FA yes man and doing their bidding, no matter how unfair it was to our grassroots game.

Do wish him well this summer though, but personally, feel he has serious limitations as a club manager never mind international. My belief is that once we progress to the latter rounds and play a half decent side, he’ll be found out by a more experienced and adept opposition manager.
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Old 13-06-2018, 02:27 AM
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Thx for the summaries and anecdotes, Bubbs and Burger, interesting reading!
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It's quite interesting how such a mild mannered young man can provoke such polar reactions.

Is this one of the things we like about football? There are so many different ways to be a good manager.

Allardyce followed by Southgate suggests a bit of a swing in the sort of profile of manager wanted by the FA.
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Im sure he doesnt regret it. Ivory Coast will play in plenty of tournaments in the future.

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Allardyce followed by Southgate suggests a bit of a swing in the sort of profile of manager wanted by the FA.
Or a severe paucity of choice. Thanks again, Premier League ...
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I consider Southgate a bit like I did with Roy before he came to us last season. Dour and uninspiring but I have to say, he’s quite impressed me in the same way (although not as much yet) I was impressed with Roy. Hard to judge him really until the WC is over but I have grown to quite like him with the way he conducts himself and openly speaks. Time will tell exactly how good he is at his job. I think a lot of the nation are warming to him as it stands.
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I just dont know what people want from ex-players, newsflash they dont love the club as much as us. He is now in a different phase of his career, and has to be impartial, so why would he be banging on about Palace when he is under the most pressure he has ever been in since stepping up to the spot in '96.
he has only been England manager for a few years, been about 25 years as a non England manager , without a whimper regarding Palace, don't think he has ever been back to S.P.
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Didn't he step up to take that because other players, who should've taken pens, lost their bottle?
The media even to this day call it a miss, but it was a save by the goal keeper, Woddle and i think Hoddle didn't even make the keeper make a save, blazed high and wide, but nothing is ever said about there DREADFUL misses.
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Parish was obviously very vocal about his feelings against the system and I think it was Hol radio that had both Parish and Southgate discussing it. Gareth was clearly no match for Parish, and Parish basically ripped poor Gareth apart...nicely though. Was quite clear that Gareth was just acting as an FA yes man and doing their bidding, no matter how unfair it was to our grassroots game.
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Didn't Southgate appear in a commercial later poking fun at his own "miss"? I want to say it was for a pizza.
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Didn't Southgate appear in a commercial later poking fun at his own "miss"? I want to say it was for a pizza.
Correct. Along with Stuart Pearce.
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I think he’s just been convieniently painted as a bit of a “drip” by the media and like with Roy we have all fallen for it. I think that’s partly the way he speaks in interviews where sometimes he just appears a bit geeky.

Clearly he’s not and the England job and the profile that goes along with that is showing he’s not.

Obviously the media are already sharpening their knives though.
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I think he’s just been convieniently painted as a bit of a “drip” by the media and like with Roy we have all fallen for it. I think that’s partly the way he speaks in interviews where sometimes he just appears a bit geeky.

Clearly he’s not and the England job and the profile that goes along with that is showing he’s not.

Obviously the media are already sharpening their knives though.
Always looks like he's on the verge of bursting into tears to me.
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Why does it matter he is a Man Utd fan??

Zaha went and played for them and nobody cared less. Just seems like people try to find anything to have a go at the guy.
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