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Old 29-01-2018, 10:19 PM
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I think it's fair to say the ACA isn't as unpopular as I initially thought.....though it's not as popular as you claim either. You write statements that ignore the fact that it's definitely unpopular with those who are actually footing its bill.

Personally I'm a supporter of a variant of a single payer system. So I'm a democrat on this issue......However, what Obama did was start the initial move towards a fairer system....But it doesn't actually work properly with their current large private health sector.

So.....it isn't a good system....A system implemented before the structural systems are there to support it......but it was a stumble in the right direction.
So actually itís better than what existed before Obamacare then. Flawed, but better.

Its a shame the American public don't understand why their health care insurance in so high. If they did they wouldn't bat an eyelid at Obamacare as its a drop in the ocean compared to how the hospitals, doctors and drug companies (see one episode of Dirty Money on Netflix as an example) rip them all off and take them to the cleaners.
The system is entirely ****ed and as any American resident's medical insurance bill will show, an utter nightmare to pay for.
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Old 29-01-2018, 10:26 PM
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So actually itís better than what existed before Obamacare then. Flawed, but better.

Its a shame the American public don't understand why their health care insurance in so high. If they did they wouldn't bat an eyelid at Obamacare as its a drop in the ocean compared to how the hospitals, doctors and drug companies (see one episode of Dirty Money on Netflix as an example) rip them all off and take them to the cleaners.
The system is entirely ****ed and as any American resident's medical insurance bill will show, an utter nightmare to pay for.
I couldn't agree with you more.

Their health system attitudes are similar to their attitudes on guns. These are deeply ingrained cultural identities. I don't see them changing in my lifetime.

I think it would take something like a Sanders landslide in both houses to even touch it.
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Old 29-01-2018, 10:29 PM
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I cannot see anyone dismantling the Health Insurance companies. They are a nightmare. The average family will pay $800-$1,000 a month and you would be lucky if that covered everything.
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Old 29-01-2018, 10:33 PM
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Old 31-01-2018, 02:14 AM
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Muppet is doing his State of the Union thing... Smug Muvver ******.
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Old 31-01-2018, 03:12 AM
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You know, what he says is fine, it's just the tone, the facial expressions, and his mannerisms...

I just can't watch him... I'm a lost cause I guess.
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Old 31-01-2018, 03:28 AM
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Old 31-01-2018, 04:38 AM
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Unfortunately the Democratic response by Joe Kennedy III was too scripted, too over acted and too predictable.

This is what really worries me... The best the Dems can do is roll out a "name" from the past and give them a tear jerking speech to read.

Where are the natural leaders?
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Old 31-01-2018, 09:35 AM
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Unfortunately the Democratic response by Joe Kennedy III was too scripted, too over acted and too predictable.

This is what really worries me... The best the Dems can do is roll out a "name" from the past and give them a tear jerking speech to read.

Where are the natural leaders?
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"The Memo" has been released.

The pop corn will be hitting the fan.

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Old 02-02-2018, 07:47 PM
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Is Trump stupid enough to think he can fire Mueller off the back of a crappy memo written by one of his stooges?
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Is Trump stupid enough to think he can fire Mueller off the back of a crappy memo written by one of his stooges?
Yes. All he understands is bully tactics. Muller will quietly go about his business.
I am sure that this is affecting him in no way. It really is starting to feel like desperation on the part of the GOP.
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"The US president's daughter-in-law, Vanessa Trump, has been taken to hospital after opening an envelope containing white powder."

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Thirteen Russians have been charged with interfering in the US 2016 election, in a major development in the FBI investigation.

"By 2016, defendants and their co-conspirators used their fictitious online persons to interfere with the 2016 US presidential election," the indictment continues.

"They engaged in operations primarily to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump."


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The Russians’ “strategic goal” was to sow discord, the indictment says. By early-to-mid 2016, their efforts “included” supporting Trump’s campaign and disparaging Democrat Clinton. The charges say that Russians also communicated with “unwitting individuals” associated with the Trump campaign and other political activists to coordinate activities.


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Who cares what Russia did. It`s more interesting who they did it to. Both sides claiming the other were complicit and themselves targetted.
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It's now logically impossible to deny interference - though Trump of course still does- and with that in mind expect the next set of indictments to form a link between this and the Trump campaign. The timing of this is as much to cement the reality of interference, and diminish Trumps 'fake news', 'Putin told me he didn''t do it' angle for the public.

It now becomes much more difficult to fire Mueller or Rosenstein as a result of this as it was very cleverly presented in a manner benign to the Trump campaign. Lots of "There's nothing 'in this indictment' related to members of the campaign knowingly conspiring with these Russian nationals." He's being very careful with his words.

Some were 'unwittingly' misled, so it's good to put that front of shop. However this:

"From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016,” the indictment reads."

offers a thread to pull on, since some already known to the grand jury were clearly knowingly involved with this group of Russians. File under 'to be continued...'
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Old 16-02-2018, 09:33 PM
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Who cares what Russia did. It`s more interesting who they did it to. Both sides claiming the other were complicit and themselves targetted.
What do you mean by both sides?
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