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Old 08-12-2017, 01:18 PM
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If cj plum is representing the fans at these meetings its no surprise we end up with crap allocations and inept policing.
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Old 08-12-2017, 01:24 PM
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CJ Plum. Probably time for you to quit this thread.
Showing yourself up and losing respect you previously had.
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But what I find annoying is that all the reports (apart from the one giving addresses) seem to suggest that the arrested fans were all Palace.

Also one of the Sussex based fans was arrested for pyrotechnics, so I would have thought that he was actually a Palace fan.
The 41 y/o from East Sussex is definitely a Palace fan, unless he has committed the ultimate act of betrayal. I used to stand on the corner of Park Road and Whitehorse Lane trying to flog that shitty Palace News with him back in the day.
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... I have sent emails to the Police and the club which have been critical of both the policing and the Fanatics behaviour. Both problems have impacted on the innocent majority of well behaved supporters...[/I]
What incidents did you actually witness 'first hand' to be able to send out such critical emails?
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Rob,

Have you or any of the others looking into this managed to find out how many refunds have had to be made? The claim was there were 150 fans, many without tickets. Well how many were without tickets? Surely an answer lies in how many people have had to be refunded for an un-scanned ticket?

Would love to know what that number is! It certainly took them over a week to refund and then to put the points back on.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:24 PM
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Have you or any of the others looking into this managed to find out how many refunds have had to be made? The claim was there were 150 fans, many without tickets. Well how many were without tickets? Surely an answer lies in how many people have had to be refunded for an un-scanned ticket?

Would love to know what that number is! It certainly took them over a week to refund and then to put the points back on.
That will only tell you how many people with tickets never got in, plus how many people with tickets got in without them being scanned, and claimed.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:28 PM
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If cj plum is representing the fans at these meetings its no surprise we end up with crap allocations and inept policing.

Spot on. But apparently he’s ‘a good guy’ who used to organise things back in the day.

Always had my suspicions. Hmm..
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Rob,

Have you or any of the others looking into this managed to find out how many refunds have had to be made? The claim was there were 150 fans, many without tickets. Well how many were without tickets? Surely an answer lies in how many people have had to be refunded for an un-scanned ticket?

Would love to know what that number is! It certainly took them over a week to refund and then to put the points back on.

Myself and quite a few others I know requested a refund from the club, with tickets attached, and still haven’t received a refund..
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That will only tell you how many people with tickets never got in, plus how many people with tickets got in without them being scanned, and claimed.
So what is that number.

If they have had 150 claims for a refund then the claims from Sussex was that 150 people were outside - therefore everyone had a ticket.
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Old 08-12-2017, 02:45 PM
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Myself and quite a few others I know requested a refund from the club, with tickets attached, and still haven’t received a refund..
My points were put back on yesterday, after the refund last week.

Have you chased them up?
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So what is that number.

If they have had 150 claims for a refund then the claims from Sussex was that 150 people were outside - therefore everyone had a ticket.
I was outside and thought at least 300 maybe more. When you see the kettle going through Brighton its a lot of fans and most of them did not get in.
Apart from not getting in the thing that was really bad was being denied to have a piss. Most had been drinking from midday onwards and were them marched around the streets, onto a train and kept outside before being returned all the while being refused to be allowed to have a wee. Coppers telling you to do it in your pants didn't help much.
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Bunch of arseholes - you'd think they'd have learnt from Hillsborough about lying. But it's the easy thing to make football fans out to be scum.

I'm a bit surprised the club hasn't come out to challenge these claims & it's been left to a fanzine to do so - fair play to Rob for this. Maybe the club are in a tough spot after the behaviour of some that day, but the majority behaved as they should & deserve to be defended.
So if CPFC do that and the question of Pyros come up....... CPFC cannot say none were taken into the ground and cannot say our fans were breaking the law in doing so. That is why they cannot take them to task.
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So what is that number.

If they have had 150 claims for a refund then the claims from Sussex was that 150 people were outside - therefore everyone had a ticket.

clubs says they have refunded over 200 tickets
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These public servants and corporate slags really should know better than to try and take us on with this short of shit.

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When our backs are to the wall we fight.
proud of our fans for this (especially FYP and Rob - expertly played. Will buy the mag tomorrow). This "we're not taking shit" Palace can stay.
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I echo what Buzzer said, just a farce - embarrassing and damaging, just disgraceful. Hopefully it gives the police less chance to argue reduced tickets for you lot in Jan. Most Brighton fans are equally pissed off as you are. If it was the other way round one would be charged for perverting the course of justice, same should happen to the ******* old bill. It has done no one any favours whatsoever and both sets of fans and I expect clubs are probably fuming and rightly so
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There are articles in The Guardian, The Independent, The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Mirror and more. I've given statements to the first two, and there's another article in today's edition of the Evening Standard too.

I'll also be on BBC London's news show this evening to explain how we got this climbdown from Sussex Police. I've also been on Talksport and BBC Radio Sussex in the last 12 hours.

We're very fortunate as a club to have some excellent journalists supporters. Without the effort from Dominic Fifield and Ed Malyon, I'm not sure it would have got the traction it did.
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We need to have a prolonged singsong against the Sussex Police at that game in January.

Live on TV as well. They wanted to smear us, let them have it back in spades. A few banners to that effect caught on camera, and not only at that game - any televised Palace home game as well.
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Sounds like FYP haven't let up and have put in another FOI request regarding further details. I'll let Rob post the details here if he wants, but I did just want to say well done for pursuing this. The apology yesterday from Sussex Police didn't go far enough and left a lot of unanswered questions.
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I'll also be on BBC London's news show this evening to explain how we got this climbdown from Sussex Police. I've also been on Talksport and BBC Radio Sussex in the last 12 hours.

We're very fortunate as a club to have some excellent journalists supporters. Without the effort from Dominic Fifield and Ed Malyon, I'm not sure it would have got the traction it did.
Splendid work.

I've taken the liberty of emailing Caroline Lucas (MP for Brighton Pavilion) using some of your press quotes, asking her to press for answers.

This is an incredibly poor show from the plod. But let's not tar them all with the same brush - just as the overwhelming majority of Palace fans on the night were well behaved, the overwhelming majority of coppers are honest, decent, and thoroughly competent individuals.

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I echo what Buzzer said, just a farce - embarrassing and damaging, just disgraceful. Hopefully it gives the police less chance to argue reduced tickets for you lot in Jan. Most Brighton fans are equally pissed off as you are. If it was the other way round one would be charged for perverting the course of justice, same should happen to the ******* old bill. It has done no one any favours whatsoever and both sets of fans and I expect clubs are probably fuming and rightly so
maffew - fair play to you coming on here! expect some abuse from a small minority on here though.

I agree the Police are wrong however, this still does NOT excuse the IDIOT's who pushed there way into the ground without a ticket!
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