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Old 21-09-2018, 12:38 AM
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Not entirely convinced the new Main Stand will ever get built.
Prepare for a massively negative media onslaught against Croydon Council and Sadiq Khan if it doesn’t end up happening.

They know the consequences of f*cking this up as I’m sure Mr Parish has explained it to them in detail.
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Old 21-09-2018, 01:18 AM
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Old 21-09-2018, 05:51 AM
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Prepare for a massively negative media onslaught against Croydon Council and Sadiq Khan if it doesn’t end up happening.

They know the consequences of f*cking this up as I’m sure Mr Parish has explained it to them in detail.
There will be a lot of unhappy football fans who support Palace and lots of happy ones that support Millwall Charlton and West Ham? Its not exactly armageddon. I'm not sure where and why there will be a massively negative media onslaught. Probably a few articles and on to the next story, I suppose as the Evening Standard always likes having a pop against the Mayor that they will be on our side for the brief period it remains news.

I still expect this to happen but complying with conditions and agreeing the precise terms of the s106 was always going to be the tricky bit
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Old 21-09-2018, 06:40 AM
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I think SP needs to explain clearly to Croydon Council and the Mayor that we are not a rich club, despite our PL income, as we wasted it all on Benteke and Mutch.
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Old 21-09-2018, 07:18 AM
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Prepare for a massively negative media onslaught against Croydon Council and Sadiq Khan if it doesn’t end up happening.

They know the consequences of f*cking this up as I’m sure Mr Parish has explained it to them in detail.
But we are the ones wanting to knock several houses down. It may seem unfair but the solution and cost is down to us. Offering to staple several houses to the side of the Holmesdale was never going to work.
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Old 21-09-2018, 07:28 AM
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There will be a lot of unhappy football fans who support Palace and lots of happy ones that support Millwall Charlton and West Ham? Its not exactly armageddon. I'm not sure where and why there will be a massively negative media onslaught. Probably a few articles and on to the next story, I suppose as the Evening Standard always likes having a pop against the Mayor that they will be on our side for the brief period it remains news.

I still expect this to happen but complying with conditions and agreeing the precise terms of the s106 was always going to be the tricky bit
‘Tricky’ yes, but the authorities have come across to me as even more opportunist than I expected. Maybe it was watching the stream of that council meeting and how they were trying to lob in as many extras as they could think of.

Whilst ofcourse the club must consider near neighbours (eg on match days), the extent of the conditions have been wider than I’d expected. Has it seemed normal to you in your experience?

I wonder if they would treat a non-football development and employer in the same manner? If, for example, Nestle decided to return to the borough and create much needed jobs, would they also be expected to pay for upgrading the local streets or station?

I see the Westfield development have already been allowed to drop the planned changes to the tram route, despite their plan to bring hundreds of flats and a shopping mall to Croydon. That would hugely increase footfall in that area every day....and yet our stand would ‘only’ bring a maximum of 8,000 fans maybe 20 times per year (assuming we stay in the Prem really).

However I do agree with some conditions ofcourse (eg looking after those residents displaced and providing community space for hire on non-match days).
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TBH I doubt Khan(t) will have a second term as London Mayor, so who knows. Club may have to look at other sites to replace the lost housing, such as Purley Way, for example.
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Old 21-09-2018, 11:04 AM
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I think SP needs to explain clearly to Croydon Council and the Mayor that we are not a rich club, despite our PL income, as we wasted it all on Benteke and Mutch.
Made me laugh. Says it all really.
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Old 21-09-2018, 11:13 AM
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Planning rejected by the Mayor back in March as it didn't fully comply with the "London Plan". No further updates since then.

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Old 21-09-2018, 11:26 AM
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TBH I doubt Khan(t) will have a second term as London Mayor, so who knows. Club may have to look at other sites to replace the lost housing, such as Purley Way, for example.
It's more to do with the London Plan than who is mayor. We need to come up with 6 affordable properties in Croydon and build 6 new houses.

Clearly it would be much better if they were built in Croydon but I'm just wondering whether building elsewhere in London would be acceptable.

The easiest thing would be to build 6 new affordable house.
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Old 21-09-2018, 11:35 AM
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True, but it has to be "new" land that doesn't already have planning permission or is residential property. Dorkings post 16635 explains it in detail.
There’s a plot in Beckenham big enough which did have pp but that permission has now lapsed.

A mere snip at £5m.
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Can commercial property like the disused pubs around Thornton Heath be converted into homes to meet the London Plan requirements? 2 or 3 of them done up and you could the 6 new homes needed? Start with the one on TH high street!
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Apologies if someone else has already suggested this, but how about converting the whole corner site where our shop, Box Office etc are into housing?

There is already housing on the main road, so convert to match that terrace. Not sure if it’s large enough for 6, but it’d take several. Then also convert/demolish 1-2 of the closed pubs in Thornton Heath high street for housing. You could even rent some of these to staff, thus getting some of our investment back!

We can accommodate our retail needs inside the new stand, god knows it’ll be big enough!
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