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View Poll Results: As of 05/02/17 who should be first choice Goalkeeper
1 Julian Speroni 311 26.22%
13 wayne Hennessey 178 15.01%
30 Steve Mandanda 561 47.30%
Another 136 11.47%
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With the caveat we are talking about a true Palace legend and an excellent shot-stopper who is deserving of full respect, in truth he is not the best at commanding his box and distributing the ball. That gets found out eventually in the PL and he's not getting any younger. Would prefer a change now tbh for a keeper better suited for this level, or the end of the season. Maybe it would require a new signing if Hennessey does not seem to be trusted.
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Unfortunately, this has gone beyond just kicking and commanding the area in my view. Pure and simple, the last 3 home games have seen Julian parrying the ball straight to a forward who has scored each time. He got away with another of those at Leicester.

This is not good enough at this level, and has affected the result in each of those games. Julian has been a tremendous servant to CPFC, but it is time to have a look at whether Hennessey can cut it (not least to give Julian a break to rebuild some confidence). If we don't find out, then we will be possibly looking for 2 keepers in the summer.
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I dont think either of them are up to it
How do you know Hennessey isn't up to it? He hasn't been given a chance
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Unfortunately, this has gone beyond just kicking and commanding the area in my view. Pure and simple, the last 3 home games have seen Julian parrying the ball straight to a forward who has scored each time. He got away with another of those at Leicester.

This is not good enough at this level, and has affected the result in each of those games. Julian has been a tremendous servant to CPFC, but it is time to have a look at whether Hennessey can cut it (not least to give Julian a break to rebuild some confidence). If we don't find out, then we will be possibly looking for 2 keepers in the summer.
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Wow, can't believe people think Speroni should be dropped. Would love to know how many people commenting here have actually played as a keeper, because in my experience most people haven't but think they know how it should be played.

Speroni can't do much with the second goal, if it's anyone's fault, it's the defenders for not being back quickly enough to shut down Giroud, and the ref for missing the offside.
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Unfortunately, this has gone beyond just kicking and commanding the area in my view. Pure and simple, the last 3 home games have seen Julian parrying the ball straight to a forward who has scored each time. He got away with another of those at Leicester.

This is not good enough at this level, and has affected the result in each of those games. Julian has been a tremendous servant to CPFC, but it is time to have a look at whether Hennessey can cut it (not least to give Julian a break to rebuild some confidence). If we don't find out, then we will be possibly looking for 2 keepers in the summer.
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Wow, can't believe people think Speroni should be dropped. Would love to know how many people commenting here have actually played as a keeper, because in my experience most people haven't but think they know how it should be played.

Speroni can't do much with the second goal, if it's anyone's fault, it's the defenders for not being back quickly enough to shut down Giroud, and the ref for missing the offside.
With all due respect, your armchair in New Zealand may not be the best vantage point from which to form an opinion on the merits or otherwise of Speroni's performances.
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With the caveat we are talking about a true Palace legend and an excellent shot-stopper who is deserving of full respect, in truth he is not the best at commanding his box and distributing the ball. That gets found out eventually in the PL and he's not getting any younger. Would prefer a change now tbh for a keeper better suited for this level, or the end of the season. Maybe it would require a new signing if Hennessey does not seem to be trusted.
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With all due respect, your armchair in New Zealand may not be the best vantage point from which to form an opinion on the merits or otherwise of Speroni's performances.
With all due respect, it's my opinion and just because I'm in NZ, doesn't mean I can't see what's happening, so maybe try and add to the debate rather than taking a pop at me.
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I do play as a goalkeeper. Have done for 25 years. Funnily enough I conceded a goal last week where it was a fierce shot, but saveable and I parried it back into the middle of the box where their player scored.

And guess what, I knew I should have pushed it away from goal pretty much as soon as I done it. The difference is, I play Sunday League, Jules is a PROFESSIONAL and should be doing better.
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I do play as a goalkeeper. Have done for 25 years. Funnily enough I conceded a goal last week where it was a fierce shot, but saveable and I parried it back into the middle of the box where their player scored.

And guess what, I knew I should have pushed it away from goal pretty much as soon as I done it. The difference is, I play Sunday League, Jules is a PROFESSIONAL and should be doing better.
Fair enough if you do, as you acknowledge it's not always possible to get it right 100% of the time. Particularly when you're reacting to a shot in a few tenths of a second.

I'm not saying Jules has been immaculate, and I agree, his distribution is poor and will always be. Personally I don't think he warrants being dropped, he and the rest of the defensive unit know each other and until such a time as to when we have a better keeper (I'm not sold on Hennesey) I'd keep Jules in the team.
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I genuinely believe if TP hadn't walked out, Hennessey would have started the season in goal. We will of course never know that though.
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I genuinely believe if TP hadn't walked out, Hennessey would have started the season in goal. We will of course never know that though.
Well TP didn't even want to give Jules a contract extension, so I think you're probably right about starting Hennessey.
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