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Old 19-02-2018, 04:41 PM
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Any extra fixtures for them is a good thing. Look at the impact it had on us when we got to the cup final.

Presumably Brighton will put out a strong team away at United as it's an FA Cup Quarter Final. Hopefully they get battered and pick up a few injuries/Dunkspensions.

Despite Swansea's incredible run they're still only level on points with us, and you'd expect a drop in form at some point. A replay against Sheff Weds and a potential Quarter Final match will stretch their thin squad.

I think it'll have a negative effect on both teams personally.
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I rather see us stay up and win the fa cup.
Isn't that obvious though?! I assumed the hypothetical had a positive and a negative to actually get a true sense of what matters.

Of course if the answer is win/win why would anyone want any different?
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Old 19-02-2018, 04:56 PM
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Isn't that obvious though?! I assumed the hypothetical had a positive and a negative to actually get a true sense of what matters.

Of course if the answer is win/win why would anyone want any different?
Because some are odd!

I genuinely find it a very hard question to answer... Iíve dreamt of seeing us lift a cup... but I have also wanted us to be competing at the top for a prolonged period and actually competing. Not so sure and fa cup win would cheer me up 19 years down the line facing another admin playing in league 2... but then scrapping a relegation battle every year in the Pl will soon become tiresome (it kinda already is)
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Old 19-02-2018, 04:57 PM
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Swansea and Brighton have improved with their cup run
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Exactly - it gives their new players matches to get fit and improves the teams confidence which comes with scoring goals and winning
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Exactly - it gives their new players matches to get fit and improves the teams confidence which comes with scoring goals and winning
New players you say.. what is this new players thing??


In all seriousness.. our squad is currently in middle of a ridiculous injury crisis.. extra games right now would achieve nothing other than the risk of further injury
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Old 19-02-2018, 05:39 PM
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Exactly - it gives their new players matches to get fit and improves the teams confidence which comes with scoring goals and winning
In Brighton's case, a striker who is mobile in the box and not rooted to the spot.

Every team should have one.
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I rather see us stay up and win the fa cup.
Have to also consider that winning the FA Cup means Europa league qualification. I’d be happy with an away trip to a random Bellarussian team, but making it to the round of 16 or quarters and getting a trip to the San Siro, Amsterdam Arena etc would be incredible. That’s never going to happen with a championship squad.
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ZDS Cup?? Just saying! That was a trophy1
The ZDS cup was a serious competition, which we won by beating Everton in a hard-fought final. I don't understand why the fact that it proved short-lived as a competition, somehow makes it some sort of joke. All the big clubs entered - it was not the Johnson Paint trophy or the FA Vase.
Some of the fans on here seem to support Palace mainly because they see it as a cheap laugh.
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Old 19-02-2018, 07:27 PM
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The ZDS cup was a serious competition, which we won by beating Everton in a hard-fought final. I don't understand why the fact that it proved short-lived as a competition, somehow makes it some sort of joke. All the big clubs entered - it was not the Johnson Paint trophy or the FA Vase.
Some of the fans on here seem to support Palace mainly because they see it as a cheap laugh.
It was a great day as well. Winning the cup is a dream staying up helps the chance of it coming true being lucky with injuries and the draw is about our only hope.
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Old 19-02-2018, 07:42 PM
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The ZDS Cup final was a good day out but it means next to nothing in the scheme of things.

Win the FA Cup and go down but we'd probably come back up again at some point. All we would miss in the meantime is an endless battle against relegation.
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The two seasons we made it through to the FA Cup Final saw us comfortably avoid relegation, and I'd say we probably improved with the confidence the cup runs gave us. I know teams have been relegated as well as reaching the final, but I dont think a good cup run is a bad thing in any way.
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Or stay up and win a trophy??
Even better but our chances of winning a cup are minimised if we rarely try.
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The ZDS cup was a serious competition, which we won by beating Everton in a hard-fought final. I don't understand why the fact that it proved short-lived as a competition, somehow makes it some sort of joke. All the big clubs entered - it was not the Johnson Paint trophy or the FA Vase.
Some of the fans on here seem to support Palace mainly because they see it as a cheap laugh.
All the big teams entered? Are you sure about that? I remember our ZDS days well, but I dont recall the likes of Liverpool/Man Utd/Arsenal being there. Then again I may be wrong.
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The 'big' teams didn't enter the ZDS. Everton and Leeds were the closest to a 'big 5' or 6 team in it.


Liverpool, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham and Villa* didn't enter.

*Villa were in Europe in 90/91 after finishing 2nd in Division 1 in 89/90

Chelsea and Man City did enter, but were far from being 'big clubs' back then!
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The 'big' teams didn't enter the ZDS. Everton and Leeds were the closest to a 'big 5' or 6 team in it.


Liverpool, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham and Villa* didn't enter.

*Villa were in Europe in 90/91 after finishing 2nd in Division 1 in 89/90

Chelsea and Man City did enter, but were far from being 'big clubs' back then!
I think Chelsea played City in the final one year.
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I think the point has already been made but staying in this division actually gives us the best chance of finally winning some silverware.

In the last 15 years, the likes of Birmingham, Swansea, Wigan, Middlesbrough and Portsmouth have all won cupís after sustained periods in the Premier League.
I get your point but only two of those won the FA Cup. By contrast, teams with an established run in the Premier League over the last 15 years that have not won the FA Cup in that period include;

Everton, Villa, Spurs, Stoke, West Brom, West Ham, Swansea, Southampton, Newcastle, Leicester, Blackburn, Bolton, Fulham, Sunderland ......a fair few. A few of those reached the final but hey, we've done that ourselves.

We may have a better chance of winning the FA Cup by remaining in the Premier League, but not by such a margin that it means we should never have a proper tilt at it each and every season.
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