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Old 06-03-2018, 12:42 PM
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I assume this is a rhetorical question.
Its his second amendment right to shoot himself in the foot, literally and metaphorically

The curiosity here in terms of steel tariffs, is that the consequence is going to be knock on price hikes to absorb these costs from manufacturers and US products that utilise steel (as presumably there will be an initial rise in price of steel, that might drop once demand was met by US steel, but would still be higher than pre-tariff costs).

The consequences of that would likely be pretty grim for the US. As I doubt any manufacturer will be able to absorb costs of those magnitude without passing them on.

Presumably the sensible approach would be to slowly rise tariffs over time to allow for a stable transition to US steel.
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Old 06-03-2018, 02:27 PM
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Do we think his tough (provocative even) stance on North Korea has had any influence on this welcome development?

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I don't like the man and predictably he has tweeted this to help things run smoothly;

"The World is watching and waiting!" tweeted President Trump.

"May be false hope, but the U.S. is ready to go hard in either direction!"

I have a feeling he may be disappointed by this thawing of hostilities!
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:06 PM
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"The World is watching and waiting!" tweeted President Trump.

"May be false hope, but the U.S. is ready to go hard in either direction!"
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:24 PM
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The entire world of social media “interfered” in the election.

The effect of 13 Russian trolls working for a private company would be very close to zero and Trump had nothing to do with them.



If you're looking to effect an election then look no further than the Brits and the company team Trump employed, Cambridge Analytica.

Cambridge Analytica was created in 2013 to participate in American politics and claim a perfect track record of helping its clients win elections.

I doubt there will be any indictments as they don't seem to have any Russians working for them.

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They're just one piece of the puzzle.

"Many of the Russian ads appeared highly sophisticated in their targeting of key demographic groups in areas of the states that turned out to be pivotal, two of the sources said."

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Ooops, misconfigured that huge voter data database. If you just so happen to download and use this monumentally useful research to favour our party, don't blame us. You've gotta love plausible deniability.
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Old 06-03-2018, 11:13 PM
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Do we think his tough (provocative even) stance on North Korea has had any influence on this welcome development?

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I don't like the man and predictably he has tweeted this to help things run smoothly;

"The World is watching and waiting!" tweeted President Trump.

"May be false hope, but the U.S. is ready to go hard in either direction!"

I have a feeling he may be disappointed by this thawing of hostilities!
I think this probably best sums up his contribution

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Old 07-03-2018, 07:56 AM
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:30 AM
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I don't like the man and predictably he has tweeted this to ............!
Maybe, the rhetoric from Washington has changed considerably since Obama and it must be plain to NK that its not going to thaw anytime soon.

The US are the prime mover in sanctions and maybe they are affecting NK, the last thing Kim Wrong-un would want is a disgruntled populous. China have also, at least in appearance come on board with this.

So yes you have to credit the current situation to an extent at least to the US.

Having said that if I was President Xi and someone had started setting off H-bombs and firing missiles near my border I'd be having words. Even that you could say is indirectly due to US pressure.

When did appeasement ever work.
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Old 07-03-2018, 01:01 PM
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:52 AM
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"Many of the Russian ads appeared highly sophisticated in their targeting of key demographic groups in areas of the states that turned out to be pivotal, two of the sources said."
Not really.

$100,000 spent on social media ads. (memes). 56% of which were seen after the election, the remaining 44% between June 2015 and the election in November 2016. Which is .00054% of the 81 million spent by Hillary and Trump.

$3,100 spent in the important states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, $1,800 of which was spent during the primaries.

Facebook said the ads made up 1out of 23,000 pieces of content in its news feed.

Thirteen trolls, even with multiple accounts and bots would be completely drowned out by the multi millions of people around the world posting election related content which would be measured in the billions.


Muller's indictment mentions eight rallies the Russians organised. Five pro Trump, three pro Hillary.

Before the election:
March for Trump, attendance 0.

Down with Hillary, attendance 0.

Support Hillary, Save American Muslims, attendance 0.

Florida rallies for Trump, attendance 31.

Miners for Trump, attendance 0.


After the election:
Trump is not my president (New York), attendance, 10,000. Although I think Michael Moore and CNN had more to do with promoting that.

Show your support for Trump, attendance 0.

Charlotte Against Trump, attendance 100.


If the intention was to promote Trump during the election then they did a pretty piss poor job of it.


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It's now logically impossible to deny interference - though Trump of course still does- and with that in mind expect the next set of indictments to form a link between this and the Trump campaign. The timing of this is as much to cement the reality of interference, and diminish Trumps 'fake news', 'Putin told me he didn''t do it' angle for the public
Interference yes, worthy of the over reaction, no.
The thought that the Trump campaign had anything to do with this I find a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:33 AM
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So he's going to go to North Korea. Good on him.
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:43 AM
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Hang on, I thought he was meant to start WW3?
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He might still. Can see the meeting between Trump & Kim J-U ending in a wrestling fight ,similar to the Frankies video for 'Two Tribes', after they argue over who has the biggest missiles.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:16 AM
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He might still. Can see the meeting between Trump & Kim J-U ending in a wrestling fight ,similar to the Frankies video for 'Two Tribes', after they argue over who has the biggest missiles.
More likely it'll end up with the secret services of both sides recording highly incriminating video of the other. Have you seen Kim's 'personal guard'.

The two leaders are essentially the same - They're overindulged, spoiled affluent people who've never had to work, surrounded by syphocants who reinforce the delusional sense of self and ability they possess.

The scale in the KJU is simply more excessive.
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Was only a matter of time before Putin went full anti-Semite. Apparently it might have been Jews responsible for hacking during the US election.

Also lined up in his daft deflexion conspiracy: Ukrainians and Crimean Tartars.

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Russia demonization. Akin to 1930's Germany.

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