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Old 24-03-2018, 11:24 AM
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Up until now he has seemed bullet proof on these issues and I would expect him to ride the storm and no doubt blame the Clintons or the Democrats for making him do it or for generating fake news. All too weird really.

His tactic throughout his career in business seems to have been to litigate until the opponent has no option to give in due to lack of funds whether they are right or wrong. My guess there are people with deep pockets willing to chip in this time against him. Or half the nation chip in a $ each

I am in two minds though because he like so many others is being trialled in public without any legal process which I have a problem with but he helps create that situation pretty much every day.
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Old 24-03-2018, 11:37 AM
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You have to wonder what it will take to seriously damage him. Short of an earth shattering revelation, he will hang on. I suspect his power to seep away electorally until he becomes a lame duck.
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Old 24-03-2018, 11:57 AM
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Robert Jeffress, pastor of the powerful First Baptist Church in Dallas, assured Fox News that "Evangelicals know they are not compromising their beliefs in order to support this great president."

Franklin Graham affirmed that "while he is not President Perfect," Trump does have "a concern for Christian values."

Jerry Falwell Jr. said, "We all need Christ's forgiveness, and that's why evangelicals are so quick to forgive Donald Trump when he asked for forgiveness for things that happened 10, 15 years ago."
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You have to wonder what it will take to seriously damage him. Short of an earth shattering revelation, he will hang on. I suspect his power to seep away electorally until he becomes a lame duck.
You have to wonder what the same people excusing Trump would have said if it came out he started a year long affair with a porn star weeks after the birth of his child.

The double standards are astonishing.
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Trump is major compromised with these 2 affairs getting publicised hence his complete and uncharacteristic silence on the matter. Stormy Daniels in particular sounds like she has major dirt on him and is setting up a careful orchestration and drip drip management of the information around this.
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It's quite brilliant isn't it? The DNC hacked themselves and gave the information to Assange to help destroy their own candidate and get Donald Trump elected, so that in the longer term a ten of investigaters would find a single VPN slip up which would implicate Russia. Far more important than winning the election.

Obvious really.
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Old 24-03-2018, 01:03 PM
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It's quite brilliant isn't it? The DNC hacked themselves and gave the information to Assange to help destroy their own candidate and get Donald Trump elected, so that in the longer term a ten of investigaters would find a single VPN slip up which would implicate Russia. Far more important than winning the election.

Obvious really.
This is just the latest defence isn't it - just suggest it was the accusers (i.e. Russia accusing Porton Down). They just muddy the waters and give their supporters something to rally around. Its fake, fake news.
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This is just the latest defence isn't it - just suggest it was the accusers (i.e. Russia accusing Porton Down). They just muddy the waters and give their supporters something to rally around. Its fake, fake news.
It's their standard MO. We saw the same after MH17 was shot down, after they invaded Ukraine, after chemical weapons were used in Syria. It doesn't matter that their claims - Ukrainian fighter jets, or rebel chemical factories - are as weak as tissue paper and crumple as easily. There are those only too happy to repeat them, some on this message board. By the time the international community has proved what was always obvious, that it's a load of nonsense, Putin has pushed out another false narrative.
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Doesn’t Bolton have to go through some Senate confirmation process or can he walk straight onto site? He sounds like he could be this century’s Gen Haig. His appointment was the worst thing Trump has done and that’s saying something. Now Trump has surrounded himself wit Bolton, Pompeo and that torture woman. Hardly a group to inspire optimism for a peaceful world. I am more pessimistic than ever about the route the US and by implication, the World, is heading. May could be a very tense month.
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Trump is major compromised with these 2 affairs getting publicised hence his complete and uncharacteristic silence on the matter. Stormy Daniels in particular sounds like she has major dirt on him and is setting up a careful orchestration and drip drip management of the information around this.
The more they fight her the more guilty he looks. It’s like one of those Chinese finger traps the more they wriggle the tighter it becomes. And the trap is public opinion.
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The more they fight her the more guilty he looks. It’s like one of those Chinese finger traps the more they wriggle the tighter it becomes. And the trap is public opinion.

This is classic public interest versus interest of the public

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Frankly they could have gone up Hershey Highway on daytime TV for all I care. Both odious and shes been given a golden ticket. The more lurid she makes it the greater its value. Well done. You shagged the right bloke. Now collect quickly and **** off as there are a lot more serious issues going on at the moment.
There's also the alleged intimidation, where some thug threatened Stormy in front of her child. Plus the payoff might well be illegal and contravene campaign finance laws. All in all it's not a good look for a president.
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You think uncovering (if the allegations are true) that the President lies, bribes and threatens violence isn't in the public interest?
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I sort of wonder about how consistent it is to say a) that everyinth she says is a lie, whilst also b) trying to sue her for breaching a non-disclosure agreement
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Havent seen any real evidence of this, although Trumpers love to claim it....
Eh. This is from the official statement by Jeff Sessions:

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Eh. This is from the official statement by Jeff Sessions:

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