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Old 27-03-2018, 03:29 PM
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Sessions has said that, but without any evidence.
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Old 27-03-2018, 03:31 PM
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Didn't we go through all this with Bill Clinton without any adverse effect other than a distraction?
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Old 27-03-2018, 06:05 PM
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Are you still trying to claim that you are just a disinterested observer who only follows US politics because you have a relative living in the US?
On the contrary, I've become a very interested observer (I think obviously). It all started because my American cousin started working in the U.K. and said he was going to vote for Trump.

I found the the propaganda and misinformation in the U.S. media amazing.

What was a good mini series has turned into a great soap opera and I love it!
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Old 27-03-2018, 06:11 PM
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Problem is the US news channels treat this presidency as one continuous soap opera while the notion of democracy becomes increasingly tarnished.
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Old 27-03-2018, 06:14 PM
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Problem is the US news channels treat this presidency as one continuous soap opera while the notion of democracy becomes increasingly tarnished.
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The risk is that his serial **** ups become the norm.
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Old 27-03-2018, 06:16 PM
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I wonder if this soap opera will have a twist (of Lemming).
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Old 27-03-2018, 07:22 PM
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Eh. This is from the official statement by Jeff Sessions:

“Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions.”

OIG = Office of the Inspector General.
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Replace the "Mr McCabe" with "Mr Trump"..... it would more than ring true, so I guess that Trump should also be fired...

Also, lacking candor... hardly the biggest crime and one that has no supporting evidence it appears
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Old 27-03-2018, 07:42 PM
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Didn't we go through all this with Bill Clinton without any adverse effect other than a distraction?
He should have lost his job. Perjury, regardless of the fact that it was only about f**king his intern.
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I sort of wonder about how consistent it is to say a) that everyinth she says is a lie, whilst also b) trying to sue her for breaching a non-disclosure agreement
He has the best lawyers, stable lawyers, who have the best law.
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Old 27-03-2018, 07:55 PM
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Didn't we go through all this with Bill Clinton without any adverse effect other than a distraction?
While everyone was preoccupied by how much cum was on Monica's dress Al-Qaeda grew, killed hundreds by blowing US embassies and planned for 9/11.

So yes, a bit of a distraction.
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Old 27-03-2018, 07:57 PM
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While everyone was preoccupied by how much cum was on Monica's dress Al-Qaeda grew, killed hundreds by blowing US embassies and planned for 9/11.

So yes, a bit of a distraction.
Yes, Monica Lewinsky basically did 9/11.
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Old 28-03-2018, 01:16 AM
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I was actually talking about Gennifer Flowers and Clinton.

Monica Lewinsky wasn't real sex...

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Old 28-03-2018, 04:55 AM
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Yes, Monica Lewinsky basically did 9/11.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying
Are you being sarcastic or do you think this is a Labour Party meeting? #mmmthatsgoodsatire
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Old 28-03-2018, 09:44 AM
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While everyone was preoccupied by how much cum was on Monica's dress Al-Qaeda grew, killed hundreds by blowing US embassies and planned for 9/11.

So yes, a bit of a distraction.
I'm not sure that's a real equivalence. The threat of Al-Qaeda during the 90s was pretty minimal, and for most of that decade was focused in and around Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda didn't so much grow, as a large number of the mujahardeen internationals, went back to their own countries. Al-Qaeda never really was a military organisation, it was far more logistical and based around communication between Muslim nations and volunteers.

As a result when these Jyhadists returned home, and started their own conflicts, they were connected effectively by Al-Qaeda to other similar organisations, and Al-Qaeda became more of a brand for Jyhadist revolutionaries and an infrastructure linking and providing funding for them.

The degree to which Al-Qaeda was involved in 9/11 is much more logistical and financial, than being directly responsible. Al-Qaeda did what it did during the Afghan war, but on a global scale - it provided funds, and put groups in contact with other groups in terms of providing infrastructure - It didn't so much plan and run operations as provide funds, contacts and source people for them.

The US never really took its eye of the ball because of Clinton-Lewinski, it simply wasn't that interested. It was striking at groups that were affiliated to Al-Qaeda notably in response to the USS Cole and Embassy bombings - but realistically, the attention had shifted because of the fall of the Soviet Union, had left the US as the only superpower. Its easy to see in hindsight, but realistically, Al-Qaeda never really was considered a major threat, until 9/11 happened. It didn't warrant massive attention in terms of Foreign intelligence.
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The media in the US took no real interest in Al Qaeda, hence my flippant remark about Lewinsky. I stand by the notion though that excessive focus on sleaze is dangerous, both in terms of where the real scrutiny should be and the actions taken by administration to distract from negativity. I ultimately don't really care that Trump ploughed a pornstar, that's for his wife to resolve.

I disagree with your points on Al Qaeda. They had intel and they underestimated it - thousand of Americans and their allies died, most of them on US soil. Clinton regrets not killing OBL, the 9/11inquiry identified up to 9 moments when it could have been done.

As for Al Qaeda not being a military organisation? They funded and coordinated the attacks. They had terrorist training camps (at the time of the embassy bombings). The plan was hatched on one of hhose training camps (at the time of the embassy bombings). So I suppose it depends on your definition of military organisation.
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Maybe Roger Stone and the rest of the Trump team will now be less gushing and embracing of this fellow and his hacked materials now. I'm sure they had no idea about his origins beforehand . Russian link number 784343.
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Maybe Roger Stone and the rest of the Trump team will now be less gushing and embracing of this fellow and his hacked materials now. I'm sure they had no idea about his origins beforehand . Russian link number 784343.
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