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So day 2 following the result, we now have
No extra funding for NHS that freedom of movement will stay and there may be no difference in immigration numbers at all That (digby whatever his name is now on BBC being interviewed), there will be financial pain but worth it, Moody's downgrade, borrowing now more expensive Repealing various directives including the working time directive (aka workers protection) My in laws not happy at all, they thought Johnny Foreigner was going to be sent home. |
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But is the EU the right target? It's one institution that tried to pour funds into depressed areas, much more so than Westminster.
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In fact it could have been our safety net, for the disparity getting even worse. One thing I do not undertand is some people seem to have this belief that in leaving the EU we all now have more power to shape the Britain we want. Power is still in the hands of a few and our influence is no greater or smaller on brexit. |
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I can respect Bubbs point of view. But I'm also reminded of the fervour for tackling climate change in Australia. As soon as the cost showed up on people's utility bills, the mood switched fast and Abbott ran (and won) on repealing it. Which he did.
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It was also the first time the line "won't someone think of the children" was used.
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These people want to take back power for themselves, not the general populace of this country. We are not going to see the rebuilding of communities that have been destroyed over the last 30 years, we as a society are way past that. If anything we will see communities further eroded as their funding is further cut due to no longer receiving EU funding and the British government makes, at least in the short term, further fiscal cuts. As someone who works in the public sector I am aware that many public services are currently at the breaking point. I feel we have some dark, bleak winters to look forward to. On the plus side it should bring back a sense of community as society breaks down. Here's hoping.
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The areas get the money but maybe the individuals in those areas don't feel that it is spent on things that are meaningful to them. What might these Welsh areas actually be spending the money on? |
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These are campaign promises Brexit have already rolled back on - and lets face it immigration and nhs were pretty high on the agenda |
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They obviously cared little about keeping any promises, they just needed the result.
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Not wrong
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Ford considers UK job cuts after Brexit vote as carmakers eye future - Country produces 1.6m autos annually, mostly for export
The group, which closed two UK plants in 2012 with the loss of thousands of jobs, said it “will take whatever action is needed” to keep its operations competitive. Many of the world’s largest car groups have manufacturing operations across Britain, and about 80 per cent of the cars that roll off UK production lines are destined for export — half of those to the rest of the EU. Nick Gill, automotive expert at Capgemini, said: “If I’m a carmaker and I’m taking a decision on where next to place my model, are you going to do it in a market that’s small with concerns around currency and its distribution into other markets, or will you put it [in a place] with safety in currency and a large market for sales?” |
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Not one leave voter I spoke to knew any of: Norway have free movement of people as a condition of trade with eu Norway pays 80% of what the uk do with no influence *i start with Norway because all leavers ever seemed to say was we'll do a Norway, while we line up our deals... Sure Norway pay nothing and have no immigration! We get over half of our eu membership costs back in money to nhs, research, industry etc... Our eu membership is about 4% of our budget... After the money we get back it's about 0.5% of our budget... Leaving will likely cost us 10-20% of our economy That'll do it's done... We need to stop fighting and embrace positivity to try to get confidence in the uk.... It can be a sucess but everyone needs to pull together now and find a decent leader. The point was, lots of the leave vote, most of it was through ignorance
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City of London may lose 'passport' - ECB council member
The City of London is at risk of losing its prized “EU passport”, according to a European Central Bank Governing Council member, who added that Brexit talks must be carried out quickly to limit uncertainties. The City of London will not be able to keep that passport if Britain leaves the EU’s single market of trade in goods and services, Francois Villeroy de Galhau told France Inter radio. “There is a precedent, it is the Norwegian model of European Economic Area, that would allow Britain to keep access to the single market but by committing to implement all EU rules,” he said. “It would be a bit paradoxical to leave the EU and apply all EU rules but that is one solution if Britain wants to keep access to the single market.” |
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The last decade has not been a happy one, politically or economically. The financial crisis and MP expenses scandal led to a collapse in trust in our financial and political systems. I don't think the EU was to blame for this but the right wing populist press used them and immigration as a scapegoat for all of society's problems. I was passionately in the Remain camp but I don't think enough has been done over the last decade from people of my political persuasion to persuade Leave voters otherwise.
The one positive from leaving is that this scapegoating will be shown to be the fallacy that it is. Immigration will have to continue at current levels, our economy depends on it and will be part of a free trade deal with the EU that has to be agreed. Deprived areas will continue to be deprived (more so without EU funding), politicians will still not be trusted and this whole exercise will show that the EU was not as bad for the UK as the Mail/Express/Sun/UKIP would have you believe. I also wonder what on Earth the Mail and Express are going to have as their front page headlines from now on.... |
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Misinformation and anti intellectualism rules. Agree with your last paragraph. We need an anti austerity government now that will invest to stimulate growth. Don't listen to the gutter press rubbishing Corbyn. For me he is the only one who can move us forward.
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