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Old 04-04-2018, 06:46 PM
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I find it hard to find any sympathy for the burglar. Less than a year ago my parents aged 88 and 89 bothwith very limited mobility and my mother nearly blind were attacked in their own home at night.Bitten , kicked ,punched and heads banged on hard objects. Unfortunately they were both incapable of fighting back but I think maximum force should be allowed as you can't wait for the intruder to show his/her hand.
Truly shocking, hope they made a swift recovery.
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Disgusting. PM me any details of the burglar if you have them.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:49 PM
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Its not a question of pride, its a question of justice, whether you like the justice meted out or not. I have no problem with it, and I seem to recall you are not averse to wacking intruders yourself, from behind !
Wot!!!!!! surely not before they'd had a fair trail and public inquiry.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:56 PM
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Be that as it may, this thread isn't improved by all the weird old dudes with their cocks out.
Far from it part of my admiration for this old dude is the fact that i suspect i would not have been brave enough to do what he did.
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Suggesting those of us that aren't all that bothered for the safety of a burglar (who entered a 78 year old couples home in the the middle of the night) and not making it the primary concern, even after he's passed away are net curtain twitching racists, was a huge assumption.
Oh don’t be so dumb. No one has done that. Why are you so keen for a scrap? Mob mentality?
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:17 PM
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Oh don’t be so dumb. No one has done that. Why are you so keen for a scrap? Mob mentality?
Thats is the very clear insinuation

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For the knee jerk reactionaries on here: following a violent death a person gets arrested if a suspect is found. The police need to investigate. It is unlikely given the circumstances that it will be taken much further and expect him to be released in pretty short order. Also following the jailing of farmer Tony Martin for shooting to death a 16 year old burglar laws have been brought in to allow for force to be used, even force that is not comparable or exceeds defensive force.

Now get back to your net curtains, and resume mumbling about 'muslims', 'blacks', 'knife crime', 'Brexit', 'soft liberal bastards' and some such.

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Just feel like one and enjoy one now and then
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Thats is the very clear insinuation
It really isn’t. And anyway you were suggesting that it had been stated, not insinuated.

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It really isn’t. And anyway you were suggesting that it had been stated, not insinuated.

Very poor show.
I think you might have lost the plot. What was your interpretation of the “now get back to your net curtains....” part then?
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I just feel really sorry for the old fella and his Mrs. Whole summer spoiled now. Ruined their golden years, whatever the outcome.
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Depending on who the deceased is, I'd fear the potential repercussions in terms of revenge attacks. I believe Tony Martin had a big bounty placed on his head.
Traveller apparently. Whole family were in Lewisham hospital where he died this morning
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Traveller apparently. Whole family were in Lewisham hospital where he died this morning
Shock horror. Hopefully one of the shitbags that's been terrorising families in chislehurst and keston.
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I think you might have lost the plot. What was your interpretation of the “now get back to your net curtains....” part then?
Nothing whatsoever to do with lack of sympathy for the pensioner.

Everything to do with the sad mob mentality on this thread.
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Nothing whatsoever to do with lack of sympathy for the pensioner.

Everything to do with the sad mob mentality on this thread.
I think you need to read through my posts again. I can’t make head nor tail of your nonsense.
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Be that as it may, this thread isn't improved by all the weird old dudes with their cocks out.
The so called old dudes do at least tend to have cocks which are capable of extending beyond the confines of their undercrackers without them sagging into wimpsville
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On the other hand he was on an isolated farm and targeted by burglars, the police are useless, his only option was to take matters into his own hands. Without the shotgun there's a good chance he'd have paid with his life. They were in his house to rob and could have possibly killed him. The red mist descended, so what. If I was on the jury he'd have been ok.
So in the heat of the moment he accidentally acquired an illegal five round pump action shotgun (from somewhere) and sat up waiting for them in the dark. If only he hadn't tried to shoot someone scrumping apples a few years earlier, he could have had a legally owned weapon.
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Ah the bookies perspective.

1% is good odds if you are one of the 99% of survivors. Would you be happy taking such a chance. How about a beating or being tied up and left would you shoot or just accept that.
Given the rate of burglaries, break in and entries in the UK compared to the number of murders, the chance of being killed in a burglary is statistically negligible to the point of absurdity and that's assuming that all murders are related to burglaries.

It never ceases to amaze me how people will stick to an opinion as being right, even when all the evidence presents a completely different scenario to the one the defence has presented - and then try to create scenarios that aren't true.

You can't have 'red mist' and be found to have planned and orchestrated an ambush. The two concepts are mutually exclusive.

The fact of the matter is, on that night, Tony Martin was waiting, with a shotgun and fulfilled the grounds of a murder charge (wilful intent). They shouldn't have been there, and they were breaking the law, but then he also had no legal grounds for his actions either.

The idea of finding someone innocent regardless of the evidence is absurd.
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