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Managing England - The Impossible Job.

On BBC2 now.
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Old 17-06-2018, 08:40 PM
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No doubt reruns of England failing

Best avoided on the eve of our World Cup
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Old 17-06-2018, 08:42 PM
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Oh I don't know - 1966 weren't a bad year.
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Thought that was really good. Allardyce did not come across well at all. He appears to have no concept of how others view him.
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Old 17-06-2018, 09:19 PM
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Good doc , well worth a catch up on the iPlayer

Ironically for Palace, the previous two managers blowing the England job has been a blessing for us
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David Davies looks unnaturally alive.
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Thought that was really good. Allardyce did not come across well at all. He appears to have no concept of how others view him.
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You wouldn’t be human if you wasn’t bitter. It was clear trial by media and even the FA have admitted he did nothing wrong and ended up having a pay a fair whack in compensation to him.

The coward journos at the telegraph didn’t even have the courage to put their name to the story at the time.
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Very enjoyable, odd given the continuous show reel of failure.
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No bias but Hodgson came across really well.
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You wouldn’t be human if you wasn’t bitter. It was clear trial by media and even the FA have admitted he did nothing wrong and ended up having a pay a fair whack in compensation to him.



The coward journos at the telegraph didn’t even have the courage to put their name to the story at the time.

Agree MH. The media never wanted Sam and they made sure he was outed. It was good for us, but that didn’t make it right. Tossers.

Roy, as always came across well.

Great doc by the BBC
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its clear that some parts of the press should be done for sporting treason. I know there is the phrase you can't con an honest person but the non-sport members of the press should really reflect on the negative impact they have had.
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its clear that some parts of the press should be done for sporting treason. I know there is the phrase you can't con an honest person but the non-sport members of the press should really reflect on the negative impact they have had.
Except when you're Hoddle.
He deserved everything he got.
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its clear that some parts of the press should be done for sporting treason. I know there is the phrase you can't con an honest person but the non-sport members of the press should really reflect on the negative impact they have had.
Watching this and one night in Turin recently makes you realise what scumbags the press really have been and still are in this country. Henry Winter comes across as a complete arrogant prick.

They have systematically tried to destroy every England manager since the mid 80s and in turn have contributed to England's poor performance.
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A constant theme running through the programme covering almost fifty years of England's managers was the gutter press systematically destroying the credibility of every manager from Ramsey onwards and the FA being run by clueless arseholes who should never be near a position of authority
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Except when you're Hoddle.
He deserved everything he got.
He was a very good England manager and the press drove him out because he was not media friendly.

He did not deserve what he got, his private beliefs are just that and in no way should they have been used against him when they had no bearing on his ability to do the England job. So he had a bonkers theory about disabled people, so ******* what?

As for Allardyce, I thought he came across well, owned up to his own mistake and was honest about how he felt about losing the job he coveted.

A good watch.
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Just made me love Roy even more. Best manager we’ve had in a long, long time.
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He was a very good England manager and the press drove him out because he was not media friendly.

He did not deserve what he got, his private beliefs are just that and in no way should they have been used against him when they had no bearing on his ability to do the England job. So he had a bonkers theory about disabled people, so ******* what?
He was, but if they're personal views he should have kept them personal rather than air them in an interview; he must have known they'd be published and how they'd look on paper when presented as dry quotes without any sympathetic contextualisation. I just don't think you can air those views and be surprised if you get sacked.
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So he had a bonkers theory about disabled people, so ******* what? .
You're joking, right?
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He was, but if they're personal views he should have kept them personal rather than air them in an interview; he must have known they'd be published and how they'd look on paper when presented as dry quotes without any sympathetic contextualisation. I just don't think you can air those views and be surprised if you get sacked.
Fair point, but personally struggle to understand why his views were built up to be so controversial, as it requires someone to first believe in reincarnation for it to give validity to his belief about disabled people. Even then we were being built up into a frenzy to think that it was an awful thing to say. Personally I never really got why he should lose his job over it.
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