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Old 15-05-2018, 06:39 PM
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Old 15-05-2018, 06:53 PM
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Anti semites out in force?Happy tht your Russian friends do what they like with Syria no doubt
So now i'm anti-semitic for calling this avoidable and provocative action out for the despicable thing that it is? Don't be a prick mate.

Also you've been watching too much BBC if you believe your second sentence.
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Old 15-05-2018, 06:56 PM
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:14 PM
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You describe this as "absolutely vile"? I don't. I think it would have been helpful if they'd inserted the word "some" between accept and responsibility. But not absolutely vile.
We will have to disagree. Hamas involvement is what? (directed at Heb). There were no armed militants and peaceful protesters were gunned down. Men, women, children, people in wheelchairs.

They gunned them down just like the apartheid troops of South Africa did when blaming the terrorist ANC.

They should be thrown out of labour.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:19 PM
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Also the whataboutery is bollocks.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:22 PM
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It is possible to disagree with multiple things at the same time.
Why does having an issue with Israeli actions on foreign policy mean that you also support Russian actions in Syria, or make you anti-Semite?

Very odd correlation.
Not that odd a correlation. There are people who are vocal, correctly, when Israel is massacring Palestinians who are silent or even apologists when it's Assad/Putin. It was only last month the Syrian Regime with their Russian backers killed dozens of Palestinians and injured many more in the Yarmouk refugee camp. The Palestinians there even make direct comparisons between their experiences:

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Both times, we left our homes and lost everything we had built before emigrating to the camps. Life in the camps is the similar, too: Children live in tents in the wilderness, [humanitarian] organizations give us aid and it is difficult to get anything. Our children are now passing the same lives that they had in the camps on to their children.

What’s similar is how everyone here has a hope of returning. Everyone talks about how many days [it will be] before Bashar leaves and we return.

And, just like when we fled Palestine, the whole world is watching silently.
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That last line is brutally true. The reaction to last month compared to the reaction the last couple of days is markedly different.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:24 PM
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It is possible to disagree with multiple things at the same time.
Why does having an issue with Israeli actions on foreign policy mean that you also support Russian actions in Syria, or make you anti-Semite?

Very odd correlation.
Exactly mate. Just look at the crap posted above.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:26 PM
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One thing is for certain - the Palestinians are well and truly fvcked.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:31 PM
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More whataboutery from Heb.
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Old 15-05-2018, 07:38 PM
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Old 15-05-2018, 08:01 PM
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Shit whataboutery
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Israel is reliant on the west. It doesn't hate the west unlike its enemies who would still hate the west whether Israel existed or not.

Israel is obviously engaging in a slow undeclared war and land grab. Its behaviour can't be defended ethically....they are on a war footing both with the Palestinians and with Iran and Syria. It's going to bomb any Iranian build up in Syria and at some point it is going to bomb Iran again. From a military perspective that's in their best self interest. As for the Palestinians....tricky.

For me, it's a question of not liking any of it. But this is not a war I feel connected to.....like what the Saudi are doing in Yemen.

Israel are going to do what they think they need to for survival.

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Old 15-05-2018, 08:23 PM
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Old 15-05-2018, 08:25 PM
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We will have to disagree. Hamas involvement is what? (directed at Heb). There were no armed militants and peaceful protesters were gunned down. Men, women, children, people in wheelchairs.

They gunned them down just like the apartheid troops of South Africa did when blaming the terrorist ANC.

They should be thrown out of labour.
In bold says who ?
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I apologize to Elgin for my intemperate response. I hate what Israel has done as much as most of you do. But and sorry about the what aboutery here.(thugh please dont use the word to silence discussion) I don't see the murderous acts of Hamas also against civilians or the appalling Assad exciting the same reaction from the Labour left supporters on the BBS or Mr Corbyn and friends come to that.

I'm also amused at Labour supporters regarding the BBC as a tory front when for me they have for years been a bunch of pinko Blairites!

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In bold says who ?
Do you not think the Israeli propaganda machine would have found them?

Or the bbc and c4 correspondents who didn’t see one person armed?

The IDF vile scum were armed though. Sniping children and people in wheel chairs. Keep those two million in that gulag.
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Watching more of these images shows the obscenity the barbarism of this colonialist fascistic state . Anyone in the labour friends of Israel who in any way try to justify this have no place in the Labour Party or any decent political group. There must now be sanctions boycotts of Israeli products disinvestment and banning Israeli sides from uefa tournaments at the very least. this by the way is in no way anti semitic despite attempts to redefine it as so.
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The six month old baby on BBC news tonight. Her funeral was today.
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