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Old 08-02-2015, 11:29 AM
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He looks done in by his time at QPR...his body language and movement are ponderous he needs rehabilitation
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:29 AM
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Of course he's been worse, he's barely played this season and has not match fitness. But that will come and we will see a decent player. People are far too quick to write him off.
Who has written him off?
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:44 AM
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He's going to be here for a few seasons and this thread will be referred back to over these seasons as further proof (if any is really needed) that fans are fickle and fick
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:48 AM
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This is just a confidence rebuilding exercise, I think Pardew will get it right
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:53 AM
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I think constructive criticism is justified. He is ambling around way off the pace and basically we're not that good so to afford passengers in the first 11. I could see what a fit Mutch could bring to the side, he has a nice touch, good awareness of his colleagues and he had a good scoring and assisting record in a relegated side, but he sticks out like a sore thumb at the moment.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:57 AM
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I think constructive criticism is justified. He is ambling around way off the pace and basically we're not that good so to afford passengers in the first 11. I could see what a fit Mutch could bring to the side, he has a nice touch, good awareness of his colleagues and he had a good scoring and assisting record in a relegated side, but he sticks out like a sore thumb at the moment.
Good post and probably sums up most people's view on it.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:58 AM
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Said it before said it again, exactly the same sort of player as andre moritz. Will be appreciated for his quality by the time he leaves us.
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:01 PM
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I think constructive criticism is justified. He is ambling around way off the pace and basically we're not that good so to afford passengers in the first 11. I could see what a fit Mutch could bring to the side, he has a nice touch, good awareness of his colleagues and he had a good scoring and assisting record in a relegated side, but he sticks out like a sore thumb at the moment.
good post

I dont anyone is writing him off but at the moment he shouldnt be in the side
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turn the clock back 10 years and Jules made a couple of gaffes in his early days and look how that turned out
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:06 PM
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Agreed. You only have to look at the matchday thread to see the mindset. After 15 minutes so and so is crap after 70 minutes they are the next Messi. My view Mutch will be an asset this season and for years to come. I remember seeing early on that Dann, Puncheon, Ledley among others were rubbish and are a waste of money.
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Mutch will turn out to be a very good player for us. Just needs time to settle in.
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:09 PM
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He's clearly lacking match fitness, but I didn't see the disastrous game that others did from him.

Same with Hangelaand, sure he was rusty earlier in the season, but his size and ball playing ability has been an asset at both ends of the pitch.
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I haven't read whole thread so if I am repeating here what others have said then count this as another vote from the wait & see camp. I can recall the Jedi seeming to be unfit for the English game, AJ to be a poor replacement for Clinton and others besides. Any new player is a risk - look how poor Veron was at Manure - and Mutch may turn out to be a bad buy but that's not a judgement you reach after a few games.
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:47 PM
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I think constructive criticism is justified. He is ambling around way off the pace and basically we're not that good so to afford passengers in the first 11. I could see what a fit Mutch could bring to the side, he has a nice touch, good awareness of his colleagues and he had a good scoring and assisting record in a relegated side, but he sticks out like a sore thumb at the moment.
Constructive critique is of course fine.

What is not fine is palace fans writing off players after a few appearances. Especially when those fans have a proven track record of being pretty clueless about football.
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I dont think anyone is writing him off, from memory he looked like Cardiff's best player last season and could turn into a great signing.

What is bemusing is the idea that if you criticize a player on the BBS for a bad performance that you are "writing him off", or even more bizarre that he might read that criticism and lose confidence.

Question : What is more likely to affect his confidence, the BBS criticizing him or the manager subbing him at half time? Answer : neither, he is a grown man and should be able to deal with both situations quite easily.
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I dont think anyone is writing him off, from memory he looked like Cardiff's best player last season and could turn into a great signing.

What is bemusing is the idea that if you criticize a player on the BBS for a bad performance that you are "writing him off", or even more bizarre that he might read that criticism and lose confidence.

Question : What is more likely to affect his confidence, the BBS criticizing him or the manager subbing him at half time? Answer : neither, he is a grown man and should be able to deal with both situations quite easily.
Some people are simply saying he's a bit off the pace etc, others are saying his career in football is clearly over after being ruined by QPR
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