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Old 17-07-2017, 08:00 PM
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POTY 17/18 so far!

Whilst he is a Palace player, I will support him and hope that he turns his Palace career around. Let's be honest, if he did, it could save us a lot of money!
No chance imho.

He's been here since January 2015 hasn't he? If he was going to turn it around it would've happened by now.

He needs to go asap. It was a ridiculous signing at the time. One of the worst signings in our history, especially considering the fee.
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Agree he needs to go.

But to be fair, the signing was worth the punt at the time. The money looks small and was but not tiny to us. But he'd had a few v good years but was poor at the mess club of QPR. If we'd resurrected what looked like potential based on 2-3 years (2 in particular) we'd have sold him for double or more given his age and English premium possibility.

But there's no doubting enough is enough.
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Woeful player. A perfect example of a Pardew signing.
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Woeful player. A perfect example of a Pardew signing.
Ignoring Benteke, Townsend, Tomkins, Cabaye
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Old 20-07-2017, 08:52 PM
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Agree he needs to go.

But to be fair, the signing was worth the punt at the time. The money looks small and was but not tiny to us. But he'd had a few v good years but was poor at the mess club of QPR. If we'd resurrected what looked like potential based on 2-3 years (2 in particular) we'd have sold him for double or more given his age and English premium possibility.

But there's no doubting enough is enough.
My take on it as well. I was very pleased when we signed him. He's been poor for us, but I don't get the hatred. Not every signing works out, and he's not been that much less effective than the likes of Lee, Sako etc who don't get anywhere near as much grief.
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Ignoring Benteke, Townsend, Tomkins, Cabaye
Yep, I actually think Pardew's transfer record with us was decent. That January it wasn't good but in the two summer windows he made some very good signings. His massive downfall was not replacing Jedi last summer or getting some cover at left back. What we did that summer was very good but what we didn't do was a significant problem.
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Yep, I actually think Pardew's transfer record with us was decent. That January it wasn't good but in the two summer windows he made some very good signings. His massive downfall was not replacing Jedi last summer or getting some cover at left back. What we did that summer was very good but what we didn't do was a significant problem.
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Ignoring Benteke, Townsend, Tomkins, Cabaye
All considerably improved once we got shot of Alan 'and that's not like us' Pardew.
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All considerably improved once we got shot of Alan 'and that's not like us' Pardew.
Is it really the manager's fault when players choose not to give 100%. Perhaps not giving your all for the supporters is far worse than anything Pardew did.
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Is it really the manager's fault when players choose not to give 100%
Yes. The manager's job is to get 100% out of the players, and to employ tactics to facilitate this. In turn, the team will pick up points.

Pardew failed massively in his final year with us.
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Is it really the manager's fault when players choose not to give 100%. Perhaps not giving your all for the supporters is far worse than anything Pardew did.

Yes, it's the managers job to get the best out of the players. Motivate them and have a plan which they buy into. That's why we've often seen a manager fail to get the best out of players. He's replaced and low and behold things improve.

It's the same with managing any business or organisation in the real world also.
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Amazing how these players performed so much better under SA isn't it?

It's called good management.
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My take on it as well. I was very pleased when we signed him. He's been poor for us, but I don't get the hatred. Not every signing works out, and he's not been that much less effective than the likes of Lee, Sako etc who don't get anywhere near as much grief.
No I get the hatred. Well not hatred as such but massive frustration at him being in the squad. He looks very far from fit, doesn't seem to put much effort in on the pitch and is poor everytime I see him. I'm furious he is picked ahead of youth and given so many chances to come good when we give no chances to youth.

BUT - I did think it was a punt worth taking at the time.
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Another goal yesterday for the u23s - could he be the player we're missing?
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No surprise that no one is trying to buy him. Awful player.
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Was overpriced when he signed and hasn't offered anything. He will see out his contract and leave on a free. Awful player.
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Remember watching him play in the under 23's last year just after the window closed.

Every pass was either over or underhit and didn't put a foot in on one challenge.

Until that point I thought he had just struggled and had a good player in him, then I realised he didn't give a fck and was a useless one too.
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I must admit to thinking that he could have come good until I last saw him away at Bolton last year. That was the decider for me.

Interestingly, he re-tweeted this back in April;

"people be thinking you forget the shit they said, ain't no expiration date on disrespect"

Probably totally out of context but if related to some of the "sh*t" said about him on here and elsewhere in respect of his football, he would do well to remember that you have to earn respect in the first place and sadly, he never did that.
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