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Old 07-02-2015, 07:06 PM
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I wouldnt be against putting him out on loan for a month to get some sharpness back.
Of course because he's already played for both the Super Poopers and Palace this season, FIFA regulations mean that he's ineligible to appear even for an under 21 side at any other club now. Do you think QPR have a spare slot in their 25, are prepared to take him back and will give him 90 minutes now that he's not their player?
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:11 PM
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He hasn't even played 2 hours of football with us yet.

The lack of patience on here is staggering.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:15 PM
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He hasn't even played 2 hours of football with us yet.

The lack of patience on here is staggering.
it's the same old story. Empty vessels make most noise.

Just ignore them and move on
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He hasn't even played 2 hours of football with us yet.

The lack of patience on here is staggering.
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Absolute joke isn't it, the amount of good players we have had down the years that take weeks/months to prove there worth but Mutch written off after 2 hours lol
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:30 PM
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:32 PM
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No question Mutch has struggled in his Two games with us, the problem is he has hardly played any competitive football this season. Yes you can question AP for starting him in such a crucial game, especially if he had possibly seen his fitness levels in training and lack of sharpness. However credit to AP, he was quick to see that he was struggling and took him off, in my opinion he does need some under 21 games to sharpen him up, and then play him off the bench until ready, as he IS a very decent player. Hopefully with Jedinak and Lee ready soon gives us options, so no panic.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:33 PM
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He hasn't even played 2 hours of football with us yet.

The lack of patience on here is staggering.
Take a while to settle in to any new job, let alone one in front of 20k people surrounded by people you have not worked with before.

Same as Yaya he has been at Arse for a while and they would have been training a completely different style of play to what Pardew expects from him so will take a while to adjust to it.

Add to that neither have had much first team time.
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Old 07-02-2015, 07:42 PM
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Clearly he's not sharp just yet, and I probably agree with others who've said it may well be next season before we really see what he's all about. I have to admit it seemed a strange signing to me at that kind of fee given our existing midfield options, and the subsequent signing of Lee makes it seem even more odd. His slow start has only made it more likely that people will question this one.

But, surely APs managerial record, and his start here, mean that we need to be backing his judgement. If he believes that Mutch is a player who will add to our squad, we should believe that he's right until proven otherwise. Yes, he's had a poor start, but doubtless he will get better, and getting on his back and writing him off doesn't help us.
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I would not like to work with an awful lot of people on the BBS. One mistake, disagreement, under-par performance and they would be shouting for you to be sacked. GET A GRIP! He is a young man, bedding into a new job, working with new colleagues, moving house, trying to create a good impression. He is clearly very talented, else why would he have played so well for previous clubs, encouraging CPFC to shell out a large sum for him. Give the guy a chance. A big chance. He will grow, develop and soon we will have another superb acquisition.

Similarly please don't get on the guy's back. I am sure a lot of players will read this sort of thing and to write someone off so publicly could be really harmful to that player's confidence.
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Mutch is a good player and will show it with time. He's had f*ck all match practice this season and he needs to get his form back. When he does, a lot of people on this thread are going to look very silly.
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Rightly subbed. Wasn't getting involved enough, due to fitness.
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So far he's had some nice touches, but not got involved enough. The question is whether that is down to sharpness / fitness or just because that's how he plays. I think I read someone on here describe him as being like Darren Ambrose. Obviously he was a hero for us, but he was also a passenger a lot of the time. I'm not sure that would work for us now, so hopefully it is just about him getting match fit.
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There were some good touches and movement, and you can see he'll be a good player once fit and integrated, but it was the wrong decision to start him today. I don't think a front three of Gayle, Punch and Wilf will work with our style, and needs a Sanogo / Murray / Chamakh in there to lead the line. There is a place for Mutch behind the right three once fit, but that wasn't the three and neither was his inclusion.
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not in the game really, seemed to warm up on his own aswell??

I think he will come good but has a real lack of pace so needs make the ball do the running for him. not sure where he fits in when everyone is back and fit??, chamak was solely missed today.
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Not a great deal, so hopefully I'm wrong. He just seems too slow to be effective - especially for a 23 year old attacking midfielder.
Well we don't know if he has any injury issues still and while he's not pacy his 7 goals last season shows he has the knack to get in the right place and the right time. Imo he needs a run of at least 8-10 games on trot before we can offer real valid opinions again imo.
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Terrible debut and awful half today but way too early to write him off. As another poster said maybe after a proper pre-season we will see a totally different player next year.

He looks seriously off the pace currently but if he is unfit and hasn't played what else can we expect?
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