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Old 19-03-2018, 04:36 PM
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I think you over complicate things. People vote for whoever they think will keep petrol prices cheapest
I think that's kind of true. I think people would vote along ethical and moral based lines, if they believed that politicians could or would deliver on those - But they don't trust politicians, so in the end the option is to vote on what you can reasonably expect them to deliver to you personally.

Which is why tax cuts are always vote winners, despite most people spending the next four years complaining about poor services. You might be worse off overall (due to service cuts to pay for the tax cuts) but intrinsically you have something clear to show for it on your pay slip.

I think most people would vote for a 10% tax rise, if they trusted government to actually take that 10% and deliver something truly impressive on it. Problem is Politicians are deceitful, untrustworthy and shamelessly self interested c**ts.

When you think about it, they're less trust worthy than paedophiles - At least you know what a paedo is going to do, what they want etc it might be vile and evil, but its predictable and in character. Politicians...
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Old 19-03-2018, 04:42 PM
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Rumours around that the angle that Muller is taking will be built around obstruction of justice, not collusion. Same playbook as Watergate.
Obstruction of Justice, and money laundering. Collusion is just to damaging and likely very difficult to prove if the President fights it. Obstruction of Justice and historical money laundering, is all facts and figures, and the republicans senate is more likely to go with that (i.e. something he did by himself in office, and something he did before he was their man). It gives republican voters an out.

Collusion with Russia to hack an election, is going to play very badly with the Republican party, as it affects them (their man) and their voters.
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Old 19-03-2018, 04:52 PM
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Rumours around that the angle that Muller is taking will be built around obstruction of justice, not collusion. Same playbook as Watergate.
Rumours also building that Trump is going to fire him.
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Old 19-03-2018, 04:56 PM
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Rumours also building that Trump is going to fire him.
Not a good way to display your innocence. Then again, he doesn't care.
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Old 19-03-2018, 04:58 PM
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Rumours also building that Trump is going to fire him.
Enough republicans would have an issue with that action that there would be a mahoosive constitutional crisis.
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Old 19-03-2018, 05:13 PM
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Enough republicans would have an issue with that action that there would be a mahoosive constitutional crisis.
I don't disagree and I have long since given up trying to predict what Trump might or might not do but, constitutional crisis or not, I wouldn't put it past him. If he is guilty and the net is tightening, it may be the last option for a desperate man.
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Old 21-03-2018, 07:25 AM
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Trump had Sessions over a barrel.. He will still soon need to fire Sessions though and work his way to Mueller, which is clearly his intention.
The inspector General and the Office of Professional Responsibility (internal affairs for the FBI) found that Andrew McCabe had leaked to the media and lied under oath, they then requested he'd be fired. Jeff Sessions then makes the final decission.

It would have been impossible for Sessions to go against an action that would have had any FBI employee sacked regardless of the timing. Bear in mind what happened to Papadopoulos and Flynn (although Flynn's case may well be overturned, but that's another story) McCabe may still face criminal prosecution.

So none of this has got anything to do with Trump and everything to do with McCabes own actions.



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Firing someone less than two days before they retire is incredibly petty. He's overplayed his hand here. In business if you fire people they go away. In politics they don't.
The timing certainly looks bad but McCabe knew it was coming. He anounced his retirement three months ago, shortly afterwards he was forced to stand down by FBI director Christopher Wray. At that point he probably started to cross his fingers!

McCabe has a net worth of $11 million so finances don't really come into play here. My guess is that a decision had to be made as to whether the tax payer should fund the pension of a disgraced FBI director or not.
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Old 22-03-2018, 05:51 PM
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The inspector General and the Office of Professional Responsibility (internal affairs for the FBI) found that Andrew McCabe had leaked to the media and lied under oath,
Havent seen any real evidence of this, although Trumpers love to claim it....
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Another sucker of Trump's cock get's a job
Ex UN hawk, Bolton to replace McMaster as National Security Cock Sucker.
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Old 23-03-2018, 11:33 AM
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Guccifer, in the least surprising revelation of the year, confirmed as a Russian intelligence officer.

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Another sucker of Trump's cock get's a job
Ex UN hawk, Bolton to replace McMaster as National Security Cock Sucker.
Isn’t this guy kind of..... dangerously mad? I ask our correspondents from the New World, mostly. He appears to be the worst kind of American high gothic Eccentric.
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Isn’t this guy kind of..... dangerously mad? I ask our correspondents from the New World, mostly. He appears to be the worst kind of American high gothic Eccentric.
His most recent gig was as a Fox News spokesman/opinionist/“expert”, if that’s what you mean.
His main diplomatic ideoloogy is the use of military force. Eg he’s advocated for unilateral pre-emptive strikes on both Iran and N. Korea.
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Yes. A war pig. That qualifies as dangerously mad in my world.
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Doesn’t Bolton have to go through some Senate confirmation process or can he walk straight onto site? He sounds like he could be this century’s Gen Haig. His appointment was the worst thing Trump has done and that’s saying something. Now Trump has surrounded himself wit Bolton, Pompeo and that torture woman. Hardly a group to inspire optimism for a peaceful world. I am more pessimistic than ever about the route the US and by implication, the World, is heading. May could be a very tense month.
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Stormy Daniels lawyer tweeted that pic implying that there is some kind of evidence on the disc
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It's the Stormy Daniels interview with 60 Minutes.

Her attorney is suggesting there's going some revelations on it that Trump will have to deal with. Of course he'll just ignore/deny than attack. His usual response.

Will be interesting to see how Fox & his religious conservative base will respond though.
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