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Old 16-10-2008, 11:02 AM
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At the risk of further irritating Dave, I suggest that we are in a Recession.

The Stock Market has plummeted over the last few weeks and property prices continue to fall. The price of Oil is dropping daily. Even Gilts are looking shaky.

Here's the challenge. You start with a nominal £10,000.00 and the idea is to suggest how to invest this. You can put the money into any investment, and it need not be all in the same place. It can be anywhere in the World, and there is a recognised and verifiable index against which to measure any falls and gains.

The only form of betting that's allowed is on recognised Indexes. You can't put your cash on the winner of the 4:55pm at Sedgefield.

Currency swaps are permitted, but if you swap into another currency, you must buy and sell at the best rate available if you were really switching funds (i.e. not at the mid market rate).

The money can be invested at any time between now and the end of October - but of course you start to measure gains or losses from the date you invest (i.e. post a note of your investments) and you may switch not more than once in any period of 4 weeks. If you want to join in, but can't decide where to put the money, you could leave it in cash, provided you select a UK bank with a fixed interest rate. If you have your funds in cash, you may convert into other investments at any time, unless you have committed to a fixed deposit period. If you do select a fixed deposit period (for higher Interest) then you must wait until the fixed period has expired before reinvesting.

If you want to join in, you must give evidence of the buying in price of whatever you choose. Anyone may challenge the price if it is historic or unreliable. We will work out how to resolve disputes as and when they occur.

Any dividends, interest etc will be credited gross (i.e. ignoring Tax).

Obviously there will be some degree of self-monitoring, but obvious cheating will result in expulsion from the contest.

I have no idea if this will work, or whether there will be enough people willing to give it a go, but it could be fun if it takes off. The winner will be the person with the most cash on 1 November 2009. There will be monthly winners as well, if there is sufficient interest.

At the time of posting this, the FTSE is on 3975.3 (to buy) according to Tradefair, so I am putting £5,000.00 into that and the rest in Brent Crude at 68.4 (again the Tradefair buy price).

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1. You don't need to do a currency conversion if you buy overseas stock or invest in an overseas Index (except currency itself of course), unless you also want to take the currency risk. If you don't convert, your investment will go up (or down) in proportion to the Index you have selected. If you deal in the local currency, you would need to state the conversion rate (with a reputable source) as well as the Index price - and convert back the same way on exit.

2. Anyone keeping cash will earn interest at 0.5% below Base Rate. Obviously there are some good interest rates available, but these all have some strings attached, and 0.5% BBR is a good rate for instant access.

3. You may only deal once in any month (starting on the first day of each month). You may bail out at any time, but if you do, you must keep sale proceeds in cash until the 1st day of the following month before you buy anything else.

4. If there is a 'spread' you must buy at the higher price and sell at the lower. However, it is acceptable to quote an Index from a reliable source which just gives a fixed (or mid-market) rate and deal at the quoted rate, provided that when you exit you use precisely the same source.

5. You may only use completely up to date sources. Anyone may challenge a quoted rate/price/index figure if it is clearly out of date.

6. Short selling is not allowed (i.e. you must buy before you can sell).
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Can we use a real 10,000?
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I'm going to buy £10,000-worth of Chilean pesos at Ps631.33:USD1.
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It's overshot in the last couple of weeks and will come back to around Ps540:USD1 by November 1st.
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When are you handing out the 10k for us to participate with ?
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I'm going for rare stamps...the product of choice (after footy clubs) for the newly minted in Russia, Asia and the Middle East.

Now with the SG100 Index trading at 464.76 at the end of September...I'm looking for a sharp jump in October from a "flight to quality" as investors seek safe havens for their money. So 10,000 spunked on penny blacks and the like.

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I'm going for rare stamps...the product of choice (after footy clubs) for the newly minted in Russia, Asia and the Middle East.

Now with the SG100 Index trading at 464.76 at the end of September...I'm looking for a sharp jump in October from a "flight to quality" as investors seek safe havens for their money. So 10,000 spunked on penny blacks and the like.

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I think you have it licked
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Also, I reckon there's got to be an upswing in demand for autographs by Paul Newman, boosting the Fraser's Rarities Index, now that the old curmodgeon has died. His autographs are only up 214.3% at 550 quid in 1997-2008 so reckon there's value there.
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Also, I reckon there's got to be an upswing in demand for autographs by Paul Newman, boosting the Fraser's Rarities Index, now that the old curmodgeon has died. His autographs are only up 214.3% at 550 quid in 1997-2008 so reckon there's value there.
Followed by a sharp down turn in value to virtually nothing as the ebay scammers flood the market with fake ones.
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Scrap metals. Already risen sharply due to Asias expansion which should continue as China and other countries economies continue to build and people won't be buying as many new cars now in a recession reducing the amount of cars being scrapped reducing the supply of scrap steel.
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H and T Group Pawnbrokers shares.

Price 157.50 change -1.00

16/10/2008 08:23 BST (Time of last trade)

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if anyone can tell me how to spend the £10k on an option instead let me know. Im gambling that it will recover to at least $30, i suppose i need to keep a bit of cash back to hedge my bets if it recovers nicely soon
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