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Old 08-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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Expect a halfhearted, token investigation, high level cover ups and the most high profile perpetrators getting away with it scot free. It will, after all, be Tories investigating Tories.
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Expect a halfhearted, token investigation, high level cover ups and the most high profile perpetrators getting away with it scot free. It will, after all, be Tories investigating Tories.

You stagger me, you really do. Honestly, I cannot make out if you are on the side of Angels or just an utter wanker only concerned with his own agenda ?

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It was a Tory who first pushed this. And its not Tories investigating Tories. Was Margaret Hodge a Tory ? Shall I go on ?

This issue is a disgrace on many levels but its not about party point scoring.
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Good of you to look to score party political points and ignore the first line of the article in your first link.


Did previous Tory and Labour governments fund the infamous Paedophile Information Exchange?
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My Tory reference was to the main person being mentioned in connection with this. Someone who has clearly been known about for years and protected to the hilt. Someone who clearly covered this up at the very highest level. You're right, I shouldn't have made this party political as most politicians are the same kind of scum anyway.
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Peter Tatchell seems to think the founder of the PIE was a good bloke:-

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Also wrote a chapter in a book called Betrayal of Youth for another member of the PIE, and wrote an article in the Guardian defending a book called Dares To Speak, saying that "it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful" and that "Several of my friends - gay and straight, male and female - had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy".

I admire the good he did for gay rights, but he's way off base here, and really bizarre that he would play into the homophobes' hands by allowing the legitimate struggle for gay rights to be conflated with the paedo lobby.

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I can't believe PIE existed unchallenged. It's genuinely mind-boggling.
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That (and various associated links) is some seriously disturbing reading.

If even half of it is true, there is a serious establishment cover up, and a lot of people who need to face justice.
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Well quite.

The astounding thing about this, and makes me believe that there is a massive cover up going on, is how this issue cuts accross party loyaltys with the only divide I can seen between those who seem willing to go to any lengths to further their careers and those who come into Parliament having lived a life outside of the Westminster bubble with the later group being the ones willing to try and at least do something whilst the former just brush it under the carpet.

For me the appointment of Margaret Hodge as 'Minister for Children' under the Blair government shows just how seriously the upper echolons of our ruling political class take the abuse culture within government. Its almost beyond paradoy to see that **** being given such a position.
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This is incredible and how is it only coming to light now?

The comments after the Mirror article are really eye-opening - I dont think they will stay on there for long!

As a modern society how can these awful acts happen in the first place, let alone brushed under the carpet. Sickening.
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The Mail is running the Cyril Smith story this morning, I have to say PK has been right over these stories ever since I have been on here and the cover ups have been horrendous by those in power. Mail mentions Tom Watson who has fought to uncover the truth and Elm Guest House the Guest House is worth looking at via Google if you want to see the list of names linked to the scandal was second on my list and a fair way down the article. The photo that many reckon has the political world worried could well have been taken at Elm.

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PK was right about Saville and he was right about the Institutional cover ups. It's clear that things are still being covered up and there is a lot more to come out.

I wouldn't usually go anywhere near the despicable Daily Mail, but (grudgingly) I must give them praise for highlighting this.

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Not sure the government can wheel out their agent David Icke to make these stories lack credibility. Though part of me thinks it'll all just be brushed under the carpet and quietly forgotten about until the perpetrators who are still alive snuff it.
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Saville, Rolf Harris, Max Clifford etc are "sacrificial lambs". Absolutely right that they are held accountable (well, the ones that are still alive), but one suspects it's the tip of the iceberg and everything possible is being done to ensure that the world doesn't get to see below the waterline.
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Like Cyril Smith, you won't hear about the involvement of those at the top table of the establishment until they're long dead. If ever.
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Saville, Rolf Harris, Max Clifford etc are "sacrificial lambs". Absolutely right that they are held accountable (well, the ones that are still alive), but one suspects it's the tip of the iceberg and everything possible is being done to ensure that the world doesn't get to see below the waterline.
Clifford and Harris haven't been found guilty of anything yet.
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It's sickening.

Power, power over others and sexual conquest however are in my mind different sides of the same coin.

Those that seek power are generally the least suitable to be given it and most likely to abuse it. I think it is highly likely that there are more cases of abuse being hidden behind the doors in the corridors power.

Rather than more laws and intrusion into people's freedoms we need far more checks, balances and limitations on power.

The more the individual is empowered and power is shared rather than concentrated in the hands of the unsuitable the healthier, safer, more creative and happier the society.

We all recognize dictatorship as bad and democracy as good, why not then have far far more democracy rather than this once every 5 year farce which is a choice between one set corporate robbers and another.
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