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Old 30-10-2016, 12:33 PM
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I don't believe that Pardew would be forced out until we are in serious trouble in the league. The plan is to stay in the league to fund the stadium re-build and build the fanbase, so as long as we look safe he's fine.

But for discussion's sake, there's a list of available managers here:
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Interesting names include Mancini, Hiddink and Vilas-Boas. Not convinced we could attract any of them, but Parish has done a great job of selling the club in the past.


Some decent managers on that list
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There's no way that we're going to sack a man after backing him in the transfer market and giving him 50m to spend.

But even if we do sack him, we're not going to appoint someone who is already at another club. We'd have to pay a lot to Pards as severance, and then we'd also have to spend a lot to whatever club we're trying to get their manager from.

Back the manager. We're 12th in the league and have a decent Premier League squad. Plenty of negatives with Pardew, I agree, but we could be a hell of a lot worse. I bet Swansea and Sunderland fans would rather be in our position than theirs, and they're more established in the Premier than us.

10th place finish, FA Cup Final, and players like Benteke and Cabaye playing for us and giving Pardew as their main reason for joining. Pards has a lot of flaws, and I never go to home matches anymore thinking we're going to win, but he's going nowhere so we need to support him.

But I've already said the above a few times on different threads, so I doubt this will change the minds of the BBS.

And to say this is worse than the Taylor era is pure insanity.
Well he isn't getting the best out of the 50m players he signed. Townsend was dropped and not been playing that well recently and Benteke not been given any decent service.

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What hasn't improved?

38 games ago the team versus the team now? Not improved? Ha ha.

We'd have fergie as manager and we'd still lose games. Home games. Concede goals. And we will concede more goals and lose games. Just like everybody else in this division.

When you set the bar for yourself so high. You will always be disappointed.
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Old 30-10-2016, 12:38 PM
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What hasn't improved?

38 games ago the team versus the team now? Not improved? Ha ha.

We'd have fergie as manager and we'd still lose games. Home games. Concede goals. And we will concede more goals and lose games. Just like everybody else in this division.

When you set the bar for yourself so high. You will always be disappointed.


I said over the last 38 games we would be rock bottom.. your counter argument was the 38 games before hand we were champions league positions.. so looking at both we have gone from champions league positions to rock bottom... so how is that an improvement? You have backed up my point

We have better players yet worse results. Trust me my bar isn't high.. I would be happy if we finished 10th-14th.. but on the evidence on show I would suggest that would be a struggle.. we aren't showing signs of improvement at all.. we have only won once at home.. and conceded 7 in our last two games.. regression
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What's Klinsmann doing? I thought his name was mentioned during the latter part of last season.
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I'd be about as excited as BFS coming to us as I was with him being appointed the England manager, utter underwhelming when there were far better candidates, WH fans couldn't wait to get rid of him, surely we can do better then keep appointing "relegation escape specialist" managers?

A relegation escape specialist that had Bolton regularly in 8th and around there. Such a anti English stereotype comment.

And I'm not even really in favour of BFS but please use your own brain instead of just go along with the anti English manager media
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What hasn't improved?

38 games ago the team versus the team now? Not improved? Ha ha.

We'd have fergie as manager and we'd still lose games. Home games. Concede goals. And we will concede more goals and lose games. Just like everybody else in this division.

When you set the bar for yourself so high. You will always be disappointed.
I think most Palace fans are pretty realistic.

Our home form has been punishing - it's not just about the result yesterday.

We don't look sharp, we don't look particularly fit and we're disorganised in defence and attack.
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Old 30-10-2016, 12:51 PM
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It wasn't a counter argument. I was pointing out stats which weren't a real interpretation. And equally irrelevant to this season.

I've seen no evidence that we will finish 15th or below. Given that were now at the end of October. And I expect you will be satisfied come the end of this season. Although I see 13th/14th would be a disappointing season and below that would be a bad season. Neither would be a reason to sack him in a season of transition.

A relegation battle, however would see the pressure ranked up and there would certainly be shortcomings on him and this thread would be more relevant to reality than it is now. And Steve would have to do some thinking.

Do you believe Pardew is about to be sacked? Because that is what a meglamamiac foreign owner with warped expectations might do.

And don't put words into my mouth that I agree with you in anyway.
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Because he did an excellent job when here as defensive coach/assistant to Dougie, and has done extremely well in Australia as manager?
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I think most Palace fans are pretty realistic.

Our home form has been punishing - it's not just about the result yesterday.

We don't look sharp, we don't look particularly fit and we're disorganised in defence and attack.
I've not seen us win at home since Southampton last year. 11 months. I've missed the wins we have had and the Bournemouth draw.

But I can still see the bigger picture.
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Because he did an excellent job when here as defensive coach/assistant to Dougie, and has done extremely well in Australia as manager?
How many other Premier League clubs would have Popovic on their shortlist for a new manager?
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It wasn't a counter argument. I was pointing out stats which weren't a real interpretation. And equally irrelevant to this season.

I've seen no evidence that we will finish 15th or below. Given that were now at the end of October. And I expect you will be satisfied come the end of this season. Although I see 13th/14th would be a disappointing season and below that would be a bad season. Neither would be a reason to sack him in a season of transition.

A relegation battle, however would see the pressure ranked up and there would certainly be shortcomings on him and this thread would be more relevant to reality than it is now. And Steve would have to do some thinking.

Do you believe Pardew is about to be sacked? Because that is what a meglamamiac foreign owner with warped expectations might do.

And don't put words into my mouth that I agree with you in anyway.


They aren't stats.. they are facts.. the amount of losses over a sustained period.

And that's evidence of us finishing lower than 15th.. even basing it on this season alone we couldn't beat WBA Bournemouth or West Ham at home

My point is we have regressed.. your stat added with my argument backed that up.

I don't see any evidence of us finishing above 15th..

Do I see him getting sacked soon.. no.. i think he'll get more time.. and we will continue the cycle
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I've not seen us win at home since Southampton last year. 11 months. I've missed the wins we have had and the Bournemouth draw.

But I can still see the bigger picture.
And what is the bigger picture that you see and we apparently don't?
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How many other Premier League clubs would have Popovic on their shortlist for a new manager?
No idea, nor do I have any idea why that is relevant to my post

I was merely aswering the question why his name is brought up
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It wasn't a counter argument. I was pointing out stats which weren't a real interpretation. And equally irrelevant to this season.

I've seen no evidence that we will finish 15th or below. Given that were now at the end of October. And I expect you will be satisfied come the end of this season. Although I see 13th/14th would be a disappointing season and below that would be a bad season. Neither would be a reason to sack him in a season of transition.

A relegation battle, however would see the pressure ranked up and there would certainly be shortcomings on him and this thread would be more relevant to reality than it is now. And Steve would have to do some thinking.

Do you believe Pardew is about to be sacked? Because that is what a meglamamiac foreign owner with warped expectations might do.

And don't put words into my mouth that I agree with you in anyway.
What is this transition nonsense?

Its just an excuse used by AP when we lose,
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This. I was thinking of this last night, get him in as Assistant Manager.
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How many had Pochettino when he joined Southampton?
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How many had Pochettino when he joined Southampton?
I like Southampton.. they pull no punches when it comes to managers and always seem to one step ahead. Very well run club that we should be looking to emulate
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