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Old 15-06-2018, 02:28 AM
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Just wondering, what if the sale of PVA & CB means the purchase of Kenedy & RLC from Chelsea. Would anyone be against it?
Yeah, losing 8 goals from the team for four. Much rather buy (or loan if that's all we can do) RLC and loan Kenedy.
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Old 15-06-2018, 05:23 AM
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So Juv value Sandro at 52m and we(fans) value PVA at 25m . Mad nonsense
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For me £25m is pretty tempting. Schlupp is a good enough left-back and Kieran Gibbs is supposedly available for £10-12mish I think I read. If we could buy Gibbs at that price we could then reinvest the difference elsewhere in the squad.
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Lets be sensible here ....Juve gets £52m from Manure Utd.... PVA reluctantly moves to Juv for £52m... then everyone is happy... win / win for everyone.
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PVA and Townsend are core members of the team, start selling those sort of players and we will be looking at another relegation battle and other players will start looking for the exit door because of the club's lack of ambition. I would put PVA as one of the best left backs in the EPL; scores goals, links well with Wilf, quick and now seemingly very passionate about the club. Players like that are gold dust, has to stay IMO.
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I don't think Schlupp is quite at the level PVA is but if he can avoid injuries can be a capable full back with Souare being the other option. Do Juve have another Lombardo they can stick in to a swap deal?

As for the gluey smell, can anyone smell insolventcy? :taxi:
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What would be the point though? Unnecessary risk of trying to replace him with someone just as good, only for 5-10 million profit. No thanks.
The point would be, from a Palace's fan view is we would want to keep him for selfish reasons, but from HIS point of view the opportunity to join a team that not only wins the Italian league on a regular basis, but also competes in the Champions league year in year out and have recently played in the final.
The alternative for him is to either continue to play for a club that has continually had to fight off relegation, or join one of the Top teams in the World, i leave you to decide as to what you think he would want to choose.
Yes he is under contract so the club have the upper hand but do we insist on keeping an unhappy player, what would be the point? providing we get top dollar and not get bullied into selling, then why not.
Having said all of that, i do wonder if there is any truth to these rumours or simply his agent putting out stories to gain a wage increase for his client.
But then i also did wonder if there is legs to this story with recent rumours i read that Roy has been looking at LB's recently, so who knows.
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I don't think Schlupp is quite at the level PVA is but if he can avoid injuries can be a capable full back with Souare being the other option. Do Juve have another Lombardo they can stick in to a swap deal?

As for the gluey smell, can anyone smell insolventcy? :taxi:
Souare is utter toilet. We should be looking to offload him this summer. Car accident or not, I've never felt confident with him in the side. We know Ward (if he signs on) and Jairo (on the basis he played there in the Europa League final) can play there, and Kelly at a push. Like Schlupp though.

As for PVA, if Juve are seriously interested then there's not much we can do, apart from trying to convince him that there's a lot that can be said for being settled and enjoying one's football.
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Lets be sensible here ....Juve gets £52m from Manure Utd.... PVA reluctantly moves to Juv for £52m... then everyone is happy... win / win for everyone.
I would sign you up as the PR man for Palace with logic like that, other clubs may not see it that way though.
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Sandro from Juve to Man U for £52m
PVA from Palace to Juve for £30m
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With the caveat they pay some of his £130k pw wages for what's left of his MU contract?
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I don't want PVA to go, okay he's not a Kenny Sansom BUT he battles, he gives you 90 + mins on the pitch and i'd rather him than Schlupp or Souare any day.
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Souare is utter toilet. We should be looking to offload him this summer. Car accident or not, I've never felt confident with him in the side. We know Ward (if he signs on) and Jairo (on the basis he played there in the Europa League final) can play there, and Kelly at a push. Like Schlupp though.
Forgot about Jairo, good shout.

Souare was one of our best players under Pardew, the only one that kept himself match-fit. He is not utter toilet. He isn't the same player since his injury and I wouldn't be surprised if he retired full-stop soon given the accident. Was nice to give him a good cheer one last time after he came on vs. WBA.
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The point would be, from a Palace's fan view is we would want to keep him for selfish reasons, but from HIS point of view the opportunity to join a team that not only wins the Italian league on a regular basis, but also competes in the Champions league year in year out and have recently played in the final.
The alternative for him is to either continue to play for a club that has continually had to fight off relegation, or join one of the Top teams in the World, i leave you to decide as to what you think he would want to choose.
Yes he is under contract so the club have the upper hand but do we insist on keeping an unhappy player, what would be the point? providing we get top dollar and not get bullied into selling, then why not.
Having said all of that, i do wonder if there is any truth to these rumours or simply his agent putting out stories to gain a wage increase for his client.
But then i also did wonder if there is legs to this story with recent rumours i read that Roy has been looking at LB's recently, so who knows.
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Yes he is under contract so the club have the upper hand but do we insist on keeping an unhappy player, what would be the point? providing we get top dollar and not get bullied into selling, then why not.
What would be the point in keeping an 'unhappy' player? When a player agree's to join us they agree to become part of the squad and team and receive huge financial rewards for doing so. If they fail the club still needs to honour their contract (Mutch) and have a duty of care regarding their career and health/fitness (Wickham, Sako).

If they're successful enough to attract the interest of other clubs they will have become integral both to the way we play and the make up of the squad. Leaving the club costs us both their ability and detracts from the familiarity the players have with one another on the pitch and culture of the first team squad. All this needs to be rebuilt with his replacement with no gaurantee that it will work out.

So the club is perfectly within its right to tell a player that they will not be sold. If the player is 'upset' then he has to deal with that and continue to perform. If the player creates problems then the club takes it on the chin so the next time a player signs for us they do so knowing that agitating for a move will not work (I'm not suggesting that PVA has done any of that).

Our best players should only be sold if we need the money or if we're being offered more than our evaluation of the players worth and have a replacement in mind. They should never be sold simply because the buying club is famous.
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With the caveat they pay some of his £130k pw wages for what's left of his MU contract?
Seen reports of £70k a week. He contract was due to end this year though Man Utd activate the 12 month extension. There was talk for a new deal but cannot see anywhere he actuall signed it so may just have 12 months left.
Has same agent as TFM, Wickham and Kelly.
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I rate PVA and all. But really? Stepping into Juve’s first 11?
Italian league nothing special. PVA has now been a key player for 2 Prem clubs and is an international. He would not need to defend much at Juve and can bomb forward like Sandro does.

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Just stumbled accross an interview on Sky with Patrick. He says that he is happy at Palace and that he is settled in London with his kids going to school there. He says about the interest from Juve that it is a sign that he is in a good way.
I'm not surprised he has attracted interest as he has been excellent of late.
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