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Old 20-08-2018, 03:56 PM
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Roy's the best appointment he's made since being at the club 8 years now. To think when we look back. So many people didn't want Roy. Seems a distant memory now.
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Old 20-08-2018, 03:59 PM
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Frank de boer etc was a huge mistake however you might want to dress it up - last January window was poor.

We were very fortunate that Roy hodgson turned it all around - the first game v Huddersfield was an absolute joke - however kudos to him for getting rid so quickly. That was also after hanging on to pardew for so long.
I wasn’t convinced that spending so much of out turnover on sakho was a great decision but that’s my opinion.

In summary, Lots of errors made previously but none made in this window or start to the season and that’s great.
Hiring FdB was a bold move, and a mistake, as it turned out. Sacking him so soon and hiring Hodgson was also a bold move, given how so many people had written him off. Everyone makes errors, it’s what you do about them that counts.
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Yeah he looked alot better. Agree on Roy.
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Hiring FdB was a bold move.
Yes, in the same way that jumping out of a 10th floor window with a bedsheet is. Great analysis. Are you Kevin Day? On the other side, appointing Roy was clever. When many would have thought at the time it might be good (including me) it was he that had to bite the bullet on it.
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Old 20-08-2018, 04:15 PM
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People can say whatever they want but facts speak for themselves.

1. Best chairman we have had during my 40 year lifetime.
2. Saved the club
3. Promoted
4. Stayed in the league.
5. Best football on some stages that I have ever seen at palace.
6. The handling of Zaha’s rise is impeccable in keeping him happy with contracts.
7. Wise decision on most managers
8. Records broken on transfer fees that I only dreamed.
9. Financial stability
10. FA Cup Final
11. Longest stretch in the top division ever
12. Cultivated the Club's positive "South London & Proud" image
13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.
14. Aqueducts
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Yes, in the same way that jumping out of a 10th floor window with a bedsheet is.
That cheap jibe is with the benefit of hindsight. We could all see what he was trying to do with the FdeB appointment. The sign of a great manager is someone who spots when they have made a mistake and reacts appropriately - he gets full marks in this regard.
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Old 20-08-2018, 04:31 PM
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That cheap jibe is with the benefit of hindsight. We could all see what he was trying to do with the FdeB appointment.
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Said so at the time fella, go check the threads. We'd just beaten Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in like, no time and apparently that was no basis whatsoever on which to build. The Leicester, Burnley and Saints disappointments were just after leaving it all out there in winning those aforementioned games. Let's be under no illusions, it was brain transplant territory but he's turned the tables when in massive trouble and that is pretty impressive.
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Old 20-08-2018, 04:38 PM
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Steve Parish

Hiring FdB was a bold move. Parish has always believed and said that we needed to change our style of play. Hence why he hired him to oversee an evolution of the way we play.

There were numerous managers interviewed but FdB convinced Parish that is what he would deliver. I remember an interview at the time when FdB was hired and Parish used the word “Evolution”, what we got was a “Revolution” and an alienation of experienced pros in the squad, a total change of system in one foul swoop. It didn’t work and Parish acted quickly, he got Roy in and the rest as we say is history.

Parish got what he envisaged in the end , the football we played towards the back end of the season was the best I have ever seen a Palace team play in the 29 years I have supported the club.

We now have the best squad we have ever had, a sixth season in the Premier league, a settled and what seems a very happy squad who all show a unity and a positivity. A manager who actually cares about the club and shows it the upmost respect. You can’t buy that and they proved that last season by believing in Roy and embraced in what he wanted from them. We were dead and buried, 7 defeats on the spin, no goals then as we begun to turn things around we had to deal with a never seen before injury crisis that would have crippled even any of the top 6.

Parish has made mistakes but no one can say that he hasn’t spent money. The money we spent in the summer and what we got for it was damn shrewd business and I believe that proves we have grown as club and are now operating at a top level. We are evolving as a club, we have a new stand in the pipeline, an academy that is hopefully going to produce more talent and a team that I believe will be a top 10 side.

In my opinion there is never been a time to be more prouder to be a Palace fan.
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That cheap jibe is with the benefit of hindsight. We could all see what he was trying to do with the FdeB appointment. The sign of a great manager is someone who spots when they have made a mistake and reacts appropriately - he gets full marks in this regard.
Do agree a bit unfair on Mr Day who is enthusiastic and gets us in the public eye. Fair play on that.
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10. FA Cup Final
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13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.
14. Aqueducts
I would have added that to the list already if you had posted it earlier 😂
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That cheap jibe is with the benefit of hindsight. We could all see what he was trying to do with the FdeB appointment. The sign of a great manager is someone who spots when they have made a mistake and reacts appropriately - he gets full marks in this regard.
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10. FA Cup Final
11. Longest stretch in the top division ever
12. Cultivated the Club's positive "South London & Proud" image
13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.
14. Aqueducts
Aqueducts???
But Parish is fantastic.
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10. FA Cup Final

11. Longest stretch in the top division ever

12. Cultivated the Club's positive "South London & Proud" image

13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.

14. Aqueducts

15. Brought peace
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Frank de boer etc was a huge mistake however you might want to dress it up - last January window was poor.

We were very fortunate that Roy hodgson turned it all around - the first game v Huddersfield was an absolute joke - however kudos to him for getting rid so quickly. That was also after hanging on to pardew for so long.
I wasn’t convinced that spending so much of out turnover on sakho was a great decision but that’s my opinion.

In summary, Lots of errors made previously but none made in this window or start to the season and that’s great.

Correction... in summary... has made the odd well intentioned mistake. Many of which have been quickly corrected.

Had made numerous successful decision which has lead us to our longest run in the top flight in history.
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Allow me to offer a different perspective to the fan boy perspective.

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.
Well we know you are a surrogate (in Donald Trump parlance) for Simon Jordan....
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Anyway - to answer this in detail:

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

Parish was and is the front man - and only he and Browett had any major day to day involvement with the club, the other two were very much in the background - and now SP runs the club with the US pair equally mainly in the background.

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

So says Simon Jordan - not sure anyone else really thinks this? He may have been able to bail Jordan but the club was going down hill fast and hocked to every sort of loan agent going.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

Err- we were if we went bankrupt - which was very very close. We have also now stayed in the PL when many other larger more established and richer clubs have gone down.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

Not personally, but he is responsible for the manager and works with him to get the players needed to do that, and after a few years we are now playing "proper football" rather than Pulis park the bus or Sam Lump it forward. FdB was part of the process as is RH.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

Freedman/Hart - helped stablise the club (also told to be more expansive in the play)
Holloway - saved a drifting season and got us promoted
Pulis - kept us up
Warnock - stop gap with little other choice after Pulis shafted us
Pardew - started really well, got to an FA Cup Final - fizzled out
Alladyce - kept us up
FdB - Bad decision based on flawed information from the manager
Hodgson - kept us up comfortably and now, by most pundits, has us a potential top ten team

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

So the team we put out last night (except AWB - but including Zaha as he was bought back) is quite poor? Interesting view as they were all bought by SP - as were many others now moved on. Yes there have been duffs, but every club has them - the odd highlight? A very strange view

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

All mid range clubs have owners dipping into their pocket from time to time, that is practical club management not instability.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.

Its well documented that the Academy suffered from not getting Cat 1 - an almost impossible thing to do given the financial straights and location limitations at the time the scheme was introduced. If you haven't noticed - we are now finalising a very large investment in the Academy to get Cat 1 but given you live in Sweden, you may not appreciate the difficulty of finding the land for an Academy in South London and then getting planning permission?


So - not being a "fan boy" - just providing "alternate facts" that may be closer to reality.
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Can't be arsed to answer the rest of your nonsense, for the record I am not a Jordan fanboy. I just defend him when the Parish fanboys unjustly bash him. Jordan did a lot wrong and didn't do some things he should have. I just don't get why Parish fans see him as the devil and Parish as the second coming. Blah, blah etc.
SJ (speaking as a 'fan', and "although I don't like him") has also gone on record praising the job SP has been doing. No doubt SP just thinks it is pointless to start a public spat with a radio pundit. SP is definitely 'hard-nosed' and thank god for that. SJ was all over the place, and always loved the sound of his own voice - bit like Trump. Why could SP clinch a big US investment, whilst SJ couldn't, despite trying desperately ?

As for stability and transfers - the two are closely linked. Pardew was here for two seasons and did his version of "restructuring the squad" (which put us in jeopardy). RH has also been here two seasons, and transfers have begun to take on a more rational pattern. The other managers were short-term fire-fighting, although SA signed some very solid players in his one January window. We have to hope that RH stays for a few more years, and builds a squad which will look appealing to a talented successor.
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Allow me to offer a different perspective to the fan boy perspective.

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.
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