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Old 02-07-2017, 05:46 PM
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Remember the outrage when we sold Scannell and Ambrose. The season we let them go didn't end up too badly.

If the new manager can get his own players in that will improve the team, then I've can understand the logic in letting squad players leave.
Same with Murray. Did we miss him a few times when we had injuries? Yes. But it was still a sensible move in the long-term (just a shame he ended up back with Brighton).
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Old 02-07-2017, 06:15 PM
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Don't think anyone disagrees.

Issue is we are going to need to evolve.. and that start ether the midfield. I love jimmy mac and ideally don't want him to go.. but if we get 8-10m for him in his last year of his contract as he's approaching 30 that allows FDB to upgrade that position then I wouldn't be upset about it. Ideally I would want someone in better than him first
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:35 PM
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We also have an aging midfield. Punch and Cabaye are both 31 (I think) - we need to get some younger legs in there. So if selling Jimmy funds (or contributes towards) a new, younger CM signing then I think it would probably be wise.
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:25 AM
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For the right price and assuming Frank could find a replacement at least as good but more comfortable in a disciplined possession team I would consider selling. Think I'll trust the club on this one and go with the flow.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:09 AM
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12-15m then I'd take it, he was really poor at the end of last season. maybe a rest and a good pre-season would be bring him back to his best when he would be an asset. Not sure I see him starting
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:38 AM
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People have such short memories. One of our best performers for the first half of last season. Highly unlikely we would get more than 5-6m for him and would be very hard to replace at that price.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:52 AM
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Not convinced now is the time to sell him. Should a couple of more cultured signings come in during this window, then maybe take a decent bid for him. With a decent pre-season behind him a fully fit and firing McArthur may thrive in a De Boer side but only the manager will know that at this stage. The least Jimmy Mac deserves is that us as supporters are behind him after his efforts in the last couple of years. Reckon January will be more obvious on where we stand with him.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:27 AM
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McArthur was one of my favourite players, but second half of the season cabaye demonstated what he was capable of and mcarthur unfortunately showed his limitations.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:31 AM
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McArthur was one of my favourite players, but second half of the season cabaye demonstated what he was capable of and mcarthur unfortunately showed his limitations.
He wasn't fit.
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:44 AM
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I like Jimmy as a rotational player. Seeing as how Cabaye rarely goes 90 minutes, we'll probably need to keep him at Palace. For the right price, sure we could sell him. I think that price is probably around 9-10m. Good player, just wouldn't want him starting for an extended period.
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People have such short memories. One of our best performers for the first half of last season. Highly unlikely we would get more than 5-6m for him and would be very hard to replace at that price.
Agree. He was pivotal to us getting points until pardew took him off late in a game. EG MIan U at home. And others like Swansea away. Coincidental maybe but seemed too regular to be that
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:26 AM
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One of our consistent performers, Last half of last season his engine looked broke. Perhaps he is past his best and needs to drop down a division if he wants to start games. He would go with my best wishes for the right money.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:29 AM
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Be interesting to know how many goal line clearances he has made for us, first half of the season he was my poty.
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Need to keep him at the very least for the bench. But we do need an additional CM as well.
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^this.

He scored a few headers too!
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Totally aside from if he should stay or be sold, can I suggest the "people have short memories" crew actually do some fact checking?

McArthur scored 5 goals and provided 2 assists last season.

Of those, only one goal and one assist actually contributed to winning us more points (both in the same game, 2:3 vs Sunderland, 24/09/16). Every other goal and assist was in a game where we either comfortably won by a margin anyway, or got completely decimated.

These 3 points were not the difference in us staying up, rather just whatever additional prize money there is between 14th and 17th.

I accept this is a rather naive way of looking at the situation, not every key contribution is an assist, and if you pull him out of the past who knows what happens, but the same is very true about just reading off his goal tally alone as if every last one was solid gold.

Perfectly happy for him to stay, just as ill completely understand if the club feels he has to go to fund and make way for someone worth more than 3 points this coming season and with less liability to get injured.
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Can we just give Villa Mutch instead for that price? They wont notice.
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Keep him, we need a strong squad and if he's not going to start he's definitely a good player to have on the bench.
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