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Old 03-07-2017, 02:27 PM
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Keep him, we need a strong squad and if he's not going to start he's definitely a good player to have on the bench.
Yep, so often when you look at the team sheet an hour before the game there's not many you would actually choose to be there. We need players of his calibre and energy to come on.

The goals that he scored have been mentioned a few times, but for me his real value was that he was always grafting and closing the gap in midfield at a time when the others seemed, in comparison, quite static.
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We currently have a first team squad of 22 (Mutch isn't listed in it). I presume that Sako and Lee are happy taking their wages each week and don't feel like taking a pay cut to play in the Champtionship (although may perhaps go on loan). Everyone else in the squad has a role to play with the possible exception of Mandanda if he really wants to go, at which point he'll be replaced with the transfer fee and wages that are freed up.

The point is we currently have a small squad and so any discussion of player sales only makes sense in the context of bringing other players in. As such, I'm happy for Parish and FdB to sell anyone (except Zaha) if they have better players lined up. McArthur on the bench is fine, but a better and younger player bought in using a transfer fee generated from McArthur's sale is surely to be preferred.

But we first need to find enough players to fill the first team squad...
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he was our best player last season during our Sh*te run under pardew until he got injured...why the feck would we sell Jimmy Mac
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:11 PM
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would be sad to see him go - at least one more season please
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:13 PM
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Another favour for Villa?!

It's as if they're calling in some old (1905) debts...
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Old 04-07-2017, 10:16 PM
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We currently have a first team squad of 22 (Mutch isn't listed in it). I presume that Sako and Lee are happy taking their wages each week and don't feel like taking a pay cut to play in the Champtionship (although may perhaps go on loan).
What kind of nonsense is that statement. Lee and Sako were either injured or not selected. They are squad players and the squad is 25, so some players are not going to make the first team. I didnt see either player show any kind of bad attitude, so i am not sure what you are implying and what your info is for making that statement.
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would be sad to see him go - at least one more season please
Please get past the sentimentality scenario. Players come and go, and I would like to think when a player leaves it's because those employed to manage and train the players and are constantly around the squad no longer see their ability in the same way, or that a better alternative to advance the club has become an option. I think we all agree that the club needs to make progressive advancement, otherwise it will just go backwards and the premiership will once again become a distant memory.
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A very very good player. To let him go would be a bad decision IMHO.
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Indeed a very good player. Very much worth having in the squad. Positive lad, super fit, super hard working, captain material, decent technically too. Do not sell, especially not for the sort of money Villa would be able to pay, which would be max 10-15m
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Not sure Villa would pay that having spunked a heap of money last summer and having to pay JTs wages.
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I think people struggle with the concept of value.

He's been great but we would be mad to turn down 10-15m.
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He's been great but we would be mad to turn down 10-15m.
And replace him with who for that much? I'm worth nearly that in today's market.
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We've only got three CMs (4 if you include Punch), so to let him go would be madness. We need to be bringing in CMs, not letting them go!
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Why wouldn't they take Joe Ledley on a free?
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If we are keeping Cabaye, then I think we should probably cash in on McArthur and replace with a younger option.

We have in Puncheon, McArthur and Cabaye three c. 30-years old players covering two roles in the centre of midfield. We need a bit more dynamism, and to bring into the mix bit of youth, so to do that realistically one of those players has to leave.
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What kind of nonsense is that statement. Lee and Sako were either injured or not selected. They are squad players and the squad is 25, so some players are not going to make the first team. I didnt see either player show any kind of bad attitude, so i am not sure what you are implying and what your info is for making that statement.
I'm not sure what it is about my comment that you object to. According to the Palace website we currently have 22 players in the 25 man squad and Mutch wasn't listed - maybe it needs updating. I was detailing the state of the squad and have not commented on Lee or Sako regarding a bad attitude at all. Lee went on loan. He likely isn't in Palace's plans. I don't recall any injury to Sako and when he featured for us last season he was poor and Kaikai was seemingly favoured over him. Its not unreasonable to suggest that neither player (+ Mutch) has a future at Palace or that any of these players are obliged to accept a transfer from the club, particularly if it results in a wage cut. I think we'd all be happy if another club bought any of these players but the likelyhood of doing so is small and thus we have two (three with Mutch) players in the 25 man squad who are both surplus to requirements and unlikely to move on. Compared to previous seasons that's not a bad number.

So I didn't 'imply' anything in my comment. Perhaps you chose to assume something that wasn't actually written.
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The same reason we didn't give him an extension?
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I agree with "Friskey" nobody would disagree that JM has been a very good player for Palace, and i have been a fan of his style of play of total commitment. But could it now be with his effectiveness on the wane very similar to what happened to Jedinak, now would be the time to sell providing we bring in a Better replacement, its called progression.
However, as for his value i would say due to age and the length of his contract left possibly 8m would be more realistic, hence why i said before to get best value is to use him in a swap deal, and i think Jack Grealish would be a good alternative to bring in, a player with undoubted talent that FDB could well rekindle again.
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If we are keeping Cabaye, then I think we should probably cash in on McArthur and replace with a younger option.

We have in Puncheon, McArthur and Cabaye three c. 30-years old players covering two roles in the centre of midfield. We need a bit more dynamism, and to bring into the mix bit of youth, so to do that realistically one of those players has to leave.
Are you saying you would rather keep JP than JM ?
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