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Old 06-07-2017, 07:40 AM
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If it means raising money for a better player then I'm all for it. I think he's a great player but sometimes it's best to move on.
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And replace him with who for that much? I'm worth nearly that in today's market.


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And replace him with who for that much? I'm worth nearly that in today's market.
15M would get you a very tidy midfielder in Europe with more years on his side and a better understanding of what FDB wants to do.
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Why wouldn't JimmyMac understand what FDB wants to do? Has he undeclared learning difficulties?
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We currently have a first team squad of 22 (Mutch isn't listed in it)..
If we include the players who made an appearance last season and Jonny Williams then we have a 24 man squad.

That includes Souare (still not sure how far he is along the road to recovery), Mutch (would require a significant improvement to get anywhere near the team), Chungy, Damo and Sako (all fringe), Jonny (will he finally fulfill his potential) and KaiKai (no longer qualifies as an under 21 player).
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And replace him with who for that much? I'm worth nearly that in today's market.
You're worth the same as Luka? There's players that good available for that price range in the rest of Europe.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:24 AM
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:37 AM
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I think some of the negative and 'writing him off comments' are more than harsh but I do think he is likely to be sold to raise cash etc. When fully fit Macca has shown he can play an effective role in the middle and covers a huge amount of ground combining ball winning and some tidy distribution. He has even popped up with a few goals. He got injured and watching him it looked like he returned early and struggled to recover his normal match fitness. We were struggling for players and he didn't let us down.

Having said all of that, he is probably one of the candidates we have available to move on to raise some cash and make room for improvements in the middle. Just because that is the case doesn't diminish his ability and he has always been committed to the cause and deserves respect whether he stays or goes surely.
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jimmy Mac, a bit like Dann, is a player that we all would like to keep without a doubt. Obviously we are just speculating about budgets, but if we do need to sell to raise funds then I can see him being sold.. but only to fund a replacement of FdB's choice. However he may impress FdB.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:08 AM
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I'd prefer to see someone come in and get settled before we lost another CM - we are short enough as it is in that position, and if we are looking at a younger player to replace him, I'd rather there was a 6 month - year crossover to give them time to adjust and settle.

However, last summer our big purchases were financed by the sales of Yala and Gayle, so I do expect at least one sale this summer to balance out the spend. I think he's worth more than 10 million though - a very experienced energetic Premier League quality central midfielder should be at least 15 million.
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McArthur is an odd one. if he can be an energetic midfielder then he's a player we want to keep without a doubt. But coming back from injury he wasn't that player at all. Do we gamble that the injury lead to the huge lack of fitness he displayed in the second half given he hasn't got long on his contract, or do we sell now, get some money in to put towards a replacement and let someone else take that gamble?
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He's perfect back up, well settled. That alone Has some monetary value.
But as we have a new coach if someone offers 15m we could use that wisely.
I thought we might have learned the value of keeping a slightly bigger squad.
It leaves very short on CM's
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[QUOTE=CharlieCPFC;13719773]15M would get you a very tidy midfielder in Europe with more years on his side and a better understanding of what FDB wants to do.[/QUOTE



I agree McArthur has not looked same player since injury at end of 2015-16 season , but seems an odd comment about not understanding what FDB wants to do ?
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gotta be something seriously wrong if we want to offload Jimmy Mac ahead of Mutch and Lee
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gotta be something seriously wrong if we want to offload Jimmy Mac ahead of Mutch and Lee
But is anyone actually suggesting that - I doubt it.
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No one is going to offer decent money for Mutch or Lee and no one would match their wages. They are not really assets that would bring much in. We will probably be left with both of them until their contracts end.

IF we do need to raise funds for other signings, it is people like McArthur who still have transfer value but won't be first choice starters who are our only real options to sell.
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No one is going to offer decent money for Mutch or Lee and no one would match their wages. They are not really assets that would bring much in. We will probably be left with both of them until their contracts end.

IF we do need to raise funds for other signings, it is people like McArthur who still have transfer value but won't be first choice starters who are our only real options to sell.
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