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Old 13-08-2011, 10:26 PM
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Gervinho red was right. I know he shouldn't have, but I would have done the same as Barton did to Gervinho. That dive was an utter disgrace, as well as the one he did earlier in the game. The only thing about that 'melee' (can they please stop calling it a melee, it was a scuffle) that Barton did wrong, in my opinion, was dive after being slapped.
Not a dive - even Shearer recognised it as a foul that should have led to a penalty.
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Old 14-08-2011, 12:46 AM
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Not a dive - even Shearer recognised it as a foul that should have led to a penalty.
You cannot be serious. There was contact, but it is a contact sport. The contact was minimal, Gervinho went down like a tonne of shit as he had been doing the whole game. On one occasion, he thought he was going to get tackled so went down before the player who was going to tackle him withdrew and didn't touch him.

He is an actual disgrace. Also see Sagna collapsing after running a few steps after being tackled, then staying on the floor crying for a few minutes until realising the time was right to get up and carry on playing without injury. It's a total embarrassment to the sport.
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It wasn't a dive, he did go down easily - but you don't just grab somebody off the floor and 'do that'

That in itself should have been a penalty, no?
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It wasn't a dive, he did go down easily - but you don't just grab somebody off the floor and 'do that'

That in itself should have been a penalty, no?
No penalty, but both should have got red cards.

Thing is, Barton was getting fouled and spiked left and right. Ref was allowing a physical game. I assumed the ref gave Barton the benefit of the doubt because tbh, before hauling up Gervinho, Barton didnt really foul anyone.

PS - Is it me or has Arsenal of late become just a really cheap fouling team? Everyone talks about Arsenal's 'champagne' football, but when they werent rolling around the ground like they were shot, they were going out of their way to dish out some cheap shots.
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PS - Is it me or has Arsenal of late become just a really cheap fouling team? Everyone talks about Arsenal's 'champagne' football, but when they werent rolling around the ground like they were shot, they were going out of their way to dish out some cheap shots.
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Old 14-08-2011, 05:37 AM
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I thought it was a penalty
I did as well. In any case, who does Barton think he is hauling Gervinho off the ground like that. Is it now ok to take the law into ones own hands on a football pitch?

If he had pulled a person like that up off the street he would have been arrested.

What do I tell my son after he saw that. Not a good first day impression for the Premier league. What a joke
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It wasn't a dive, he did go down easily - but you don't just grab somebody off the floor and 'do that'

That in itself should have been a penalty, no?
Yes and a red card. He raised TWO hands not one and showed utter unrepentant aggression.

The worst thing for me was him telling the opposition players after the event that Gervinho "F*cking punched me in the head". What a lying toerag. Taylor made himself look an ass as well, with his post match comments.
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No penalty, but both should have got red cards.

Thing is, Barton was getting fouled and spiked left and right. Ref was allowing a physical game. I assumed the ref gave Barton the benefit of the doubt because tbh, before hauling up Gervinho, Barton didnt really foul anyone.

PS - Is it me or has Arsenal of late become just a really cheap fouling team? Everyone talks about Arsenal's 'champagne' football, but when they werent rolling around the ground like they were shot, they were going out of their way to dish out some cheap shots.
To be fair there were a couple of nasty challenges by Newcastle by Collocini and Tiote which probably didnt help matters
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It should have been a penalty and Barton should have been sent off for grabbing Gervinho by the throat. Oh and he's a pathetic pussy for his play-acting after the girlie slap.

He is a prime example of the chav underclass in this country. An utter maggot.
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Old 14-08-2011, 08:34 AM
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Barton has admitted he went down too easily. Isn't that exactly what he was "chastising" Gervinho for?
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Heard one of the presenters on Sky News earlier, when discussing this, say something along the lines of 'We didn't have any of this in the Championship last weekend, though, did we? Is it that the Premier League breeds these egos?'

I was just quite stunned someone working for Sky came out and said it. Though I doubt they considered how it all went downhill since 1992...
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someone has raised a good point. The ball was still in play, the referee hadn't blown his whistle. What Barton did was a foul on a player in the penalty area, so that surely should have been a penalty?!?
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I was just quite stunned someone working for Sky came out and said it. Though I doubt they considered how it all went downhill since 1992...
Good call sir. It can't be long before the beeb stick manise and steve on before gary and alan. As MOTD showed last night, half of it is soap opera.
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If you have ever played a match and felt someone was 'cheating' by diving on the floor looking for a free-kick or Penalty, you would do exactly what Barton did. It was heat of the moment and not saying Gervinhio did dive but Barton must of thought he was. This is what led to the bust up and they both should have seen red, if the player dived the ref would pull it up, there was no need for Barton to take matters into his own hands. I just think it was heat of the moment and in the situation. Lots of expectation came of the first game and a lot is resting on it. I think Joey Barton reacted to the 'slap' as he did because what opposition player wouldn't do the same if Barton raised a hand to them. Every match I see Barton play he is targeted by other players. Yes, he is a nasty piece of work but I think he was trying to make a statement yesterday.
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It's all a bit pathetic really. The ref said play on and Joey Barton didn't! He took the law into his own hands. he was lucky not to give a penalty away. And then the dive fron the 'slap'. I don't know what Chris Ashton made of that! It is this type of football that in some ways makes me think that the Championship provides a far better game to watch. Although the quality is not so good it is more honest. I would loathe to be spending top money to watch a bunch of 'actors' playing football in the Premiership.
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Was it "I am a complete dickhead"?
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I started to notice this last season as well - the difference between the Prem and Championship.

OK the Champs got less quality all round and when theres a good flowing game in the Premier it shows itself as the best league in the world. But if you watch both over a weekend the number of stoppages is almost unbearable because of these t0ssers falling over and rolling around and then realising theyve got to stay down otherwise theyll look stupid.

The players in the Championship simply dont do this. Whether its because they know no one is gonna buy it (because there's less focus on their games) or because they don't have it in the nature or simply because they are tougher - who knows.

On the subject of Joey Barton though. Hes piped up this morning on Twitter and is currently laying into Danny Baker (prodnose) its hilarious.
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Embarrassing all round. Barton having the gall to accuse someone (in far too aggressive a manner) of diving, before he then dives to the ground himself was laughable. Embarrassing at the level of Lehmann/Drogba having their girly boy altercation a few years back. I had hoped Barton had turned the corner from his stupid ways, but the boy just can't avoid crap like this. Shame, he's a decent player.
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