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Old 28-07-2011, 01:39 PM
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I am not comfortable with the brand that has developed (by the parents) out of this.
As a parent, you would do anything and everything to try and find your child. I doubt they care much about whether it is considered 'a brand' the fact is that every time it is mentioned or the picture seen it keeps the story in the minds of the public. That is exactly what they want.

I have no feelings toward them other than sympathy for their terrible loss.
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Old 28-07-2011, 01:48 PM
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As a parent, you would do anything and everything to try and find your child.
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I doubt they care much about whether it is considered 'a brand'
But so much of their campaign has been about a brand - so much so that it has resulted in a book!

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the fact is that every time it is mentioned or the picture seen it keeps the story in the minds of the public.
Yeah - the story, which has lead to a book. And what does the book lead to?
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I have no feelings toward them other than sympathy for their terrible loss.
I will regret saying this, but I feel it so I will say it - I don't have sympathy for the parents. Well, I have moments of having some, but most of the time, I think it's their fault. Even if they had no involvement in it, the simple fact is that they left their young children in a room (abroad) so that they could go off and have dinner with their friends. Kind of like a parent putting their child in the middle of the road and then getting sympathy when the kid is hit by a bus.

As was said in a different thread, how much news would this story have had if it was in Benidorm, with Sharon and Lee (unmarried) going off to the pub leaving her kids with her ex-man in the motel alone? Would they have been given the same media platforms to create the brand?
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...i can't begin to imagine the emotions that each different sighting brings up for the family and close friends.
I would imagine oh shit we might be rumbled if she remembers anything from that night.
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I will regret saying this, but I feel it so I will say it - I don't have sympathy for the parents. Well, I have moments of having some, but most of the time, I think it's their fault. Even if they had no involvement in it, the simple fact is that they left their young children in a room (abroad) so that they could go off and have dinner with their friends. Kind of like a parent putting their child in the middle of the road and then getting sympathy when the kid is hit by a bus.

As was said in a different thread, how much news would this story have had if it was in Benidorm, with Sharon and Lee (unmarried) going off to the pub leaving her kids with her ex-man in the motel alone? Would they have been given the same media platforms to create the brand?
Also, had it been the Beckhams (for example), so many people would have said it was their fault for being selfish.
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I will regret saying this, but I feel it so I will say it - I don't have sympathy for the parents. Well, I have moments of having some, but most of the time, I think it's their fault. Even if they had no involvement in it, the simple fact is that they left their young children in a room (abroad) so that they could go off and have dinner with their friends. Kind of like a parent putting their child in the middle of the road and then getting sympathy when the kid is hit by a bus.

As was said in a different thread, how much news would this story have had if it was in Benidorm, with Sharon and Lee (unmarried) going off to the pub leaving her kids with her ex-man in the motel alone? Would they have been given the same media platforms to create the brand?
I may not have done what they did but we all make mistakes and do things we regret.

They have paid a terrible price and deserve sympathy.
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I will regret saying this, but I feel it so I will say it - I don't have sympathy for the parents. Well, I have moments of having some, but most of the time, I think it's their fault. Even if they had no involvement in it, the simple fact is that they left their young children in a room (abroad) so that they could go off and have dinner with their friends. Kind of like a parent putting their child in the middle of the road and then getting sympathy when the kid is hit by a bus.

As was said in a different thread, how much news would this story have had if it was in Benidorm, with Sharon and Lee (unmarried) going off to the pub leaving her kids with her ex-man in the motel alone? Would they have been given the same media platforms to create the brand?
sums up my feelings on this as well.
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Sorry, leaving your kids in a room in a foreign country alone isn't a 'shrug your shoulders' mistake. It's a grave error and yes they are paying the price for it but that doesn't mean they automatically deserve everyone's sympathy.

What sort of press attention/brand creation would the couple I created in my example get?
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Sorry, leaving your kids in a room in a foreign country alone isn't a 'shrug your shoulders' mistake. It's a grave error and yes they are paying the price for it but that doesn't mean they automatically deserve everyone's sympathy.

What sort of press attention/brand creation would the couple I created in my example get?
they would be smashed to pieces by the press/media and would probably end up getting nicked for child neglect.
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The sniffer dog who had never been wrong in 200 cases, smelling death at the bottom of a flight of steps makes me uneasy about them tbh.
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Wasn't the lead Portugese detective convinced that they had some involvement? Obviously he was dismissed by the press over here as a clumsy Inspecter Clouseau type as they seem to do with any foreign police officer.
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I think we should leave speculation to the experts.

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I will regret saying this, but I feel it so I will say it - I don't have sympathy for the parents. Well, I have moments of having some, but most of the time, I think it's their fault. Even if they had no involvement in it, the simple fact is that they left their young children in a room (abroad) so that they could go off and have dinner with their friends. Kind of like a parent putting their child in the middle of the road and then getting sympathy when the kid is hit by a bus.

As was said in a different thread, how much news would this story have had if it was in Benidorm, with Sharon and Lee (unmarried) going off to the pub leaving her kids with her ex-man in the motel alone? Would they have been given the same media platforms to create the brand?
OK, I'll bite; I'll guess most people who have made negative comments on this thread haven't got kids, or have never done anything involving their kids that they have later come to regret.

99.9% of adults are likely to have left their children and then afterwards thought what might have happened to them - I know I have.

You dont ever stop worrying about your children - my oldest is 21 and just finished university and I still worry about her - what she's going to do next etc.

Your analogy about leaving kids in the middle of the road is just crass.
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OK, I'll bite; I'll guess most people who have made negative comments on this thread haven't got kids, or have never done anything involving their kids that they have later come to regret.

99.9% of adults are likely to have left their children and then afterwards thought what might have happened to them - I know I have.

You dont ever stop worrying about your children - my oldest is 21 and just finished university and I still worry about her - what she's going to do next etc.

Your analogy about leaving kids in the middle of the road is just crass.
I have kids, but there isn't enough bandwidth available for me to post all the negative things I could about the McCanns. To be perfectly honest they make me want to puke and I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. I made my thoughts known about them on previous thread(s) and nothing I have read/heard/seen about this case in the interim has changed my mind.

The only person who deserves any sympathy is Madeleine - and her siblings. Her parents and the rest of the tossers they went on holiday with can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
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OK, I'll bite; I'll guess most people who have made negative comments on this thread haven't got kids, or have never done anything involving their kids that they have later come to regret.

99.9% of adults are likely to have left their children and then afterwards thought what might have happened to them - I know I have.

You dont ever stop worrying about your children - my oldest is 21 and just finished university and I still worry about her - what she's going to do next etc.

Your analogy about leaving kids in the middle of the road is just crass.
its about as crass as your 99% claim.
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