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View Poll Results: What should SP do after 13 games if next 4 league games are losses?
Back! 625 60.74%
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Back until January! 178 17.30%
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everyone knows that, but we are seeing errors, lack of ambition, poor and wrong subs on a match by match basis by Roy. We should still be doing better.
Poor and wrong subs is starting to grate!

They are poor because they are utter shit, they are ‘wrong’ because anyone that comes on, in any poxy position or formation makes our team, even with a tired player, significantly worse!! Not just a bit worse, but massively worse.

We are paying the price for years of rubbish investment, not financially but quality! Our squad has had more depth every season over this. It’s dreadful!

Over the last 5 seasons we’ve had Chamakh, Murray, Gayle, Adebayor, Sako and Benteke, to come in from the bench. This season we’ve had Sorloth....! Even Punch is getting minutes again.
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Under RH last season from 20Jan to 7 April we also had a horrendous run

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So 6 points out of 30 . The return of RLC in top form had major impact on our survival
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Apologies, thought he went from West Brom to Liverpool and then to England for some reason. The former two were actually round the other way.

Although ironically, Hodgson was sacked from West Brom for losing 13 of their last 18 games.and wa sonly there just over a year.

He was atrocious as England manager, lost all passion for the international game when he just stuck by his favourites regardless of their form. It was dull.
He wasn't sacked by West Brom, you utter cretin. He resigned to take the England job.
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Poor and wrong subs is starting to grate!

They are poor because they are utter shit, they are ‘wrong’ because anyone that comes on, in any poxy position or formation makes our team, even with a tired player, significantly worse!! Not just a bit worse, but massively worse.

We are paying the price for years of rubbish investment, not financially but quality! Our squad has had more depth every season over this. It’s dreadful!

Over the last 5 seasons we’ve had Chamakh, Murray, Gayle, Adebayor, Sako and Benteke, to come in from the bench. This season we’ve had Sorloth....! Even Punch is getting minutes again.
clearly miss RLC and Cabaye massively...and maybe even Sako.

To think Ayew, Kouyate and Meyer were the answer seems very misguided..........UNLESS we can blame their averageness on issues with Hodgson. Ayew has done better everywhere else hes been for a start.
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I agree they Roy does not get subs right - but given resources where would you criticise team selection in last three games ?
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He wasn't sacked by West Brom, you utter cretin. He resigned to take the England job.
Indeed he wasn't and it was de Matteo who managed to rack up those awful stats. Before accepting the England job Hodgson had steered WBA to safety the previous season which is why their fans paid their due respects when we played them last season. Some of the crap people post on here is Brexit worthy.
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I wonder how many of the people who want to sack Roy are the same ones who defended Parish over our last two transfer windows.

Amazing how blinkered people can be. How much more obvious could it be that we needed a quality centre forward.
Parish and the board have learned nothing absolutely true . But given unless they are bought out they can't be changed the focus is on Roy , who is significantly under achieving and grinding us down into relegation fodder . I don't want to wait to get thumped out of sight. Although it looked like it was coming at Brighton and West Ham.
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No brainer, BACK. Unless you want Hughesy as boss ! It's the players he has available to him thats the problem. Whoever is responsible for recruitment, Freedman? needs sacking. Because Roys been given some crap to work with.
Partly true , but look at the match against West ham ,. Big pitch , both teams playing open football, palace putting crosses into the box , but where was sorloth ( or even Kelly with 15 mins to go). Also we needed fresh energy to run with the ball - something Sorloth has shown that we can do . But sorloth was nowhere to be seen , punch the last throw of the dice in a like for like change. Shocking
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That is a fair point. IF we do sack Roy then it will most likely be a short term replacement until the end of the year, and then we make a permanent choice with more time.
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If we really do not have money to spend then I think the only person who will take over is Freedman possibly with Richard Shaw as his assistant. They are both on the payroll anyway so the cheap change option.
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That is a fair point. IF we do sack Roy then it will most likely be a short term replacement until the end of the year, and then we make a permanent choice with more time.
…….And with the same management team overseeing this 'permanent choice with plenty of time' as we had the last time, what's not to get excited about!


It surprises me how we are in the same position every single season, gradually having a smaller and smaller pool of quality players to choose from, and yet it's always the manager that has got it wrong, 'taking us down' etc. We have a shockingly poor squad, with little to no one able to change it up.

What happens when new manager comes in and doesn't make the difference? Or when new manager comes in a tries to rid us of the dead wood a la FdB, there will be a mutiny again and every wants rid after 4 games.

The same shit happening season after season suggests it isn't the manager causing every problem!
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I agree they Roy does not get subs right - but given resources where would you criticise team selection in last three games ?
Team selection or formation or tactics. All 3 were poor
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I wonder how many of the people who want to sack Roy are the same ones who defended Parish over our last two transfer windows.

Amazing how blinkered people can be. How much more obvious could it be that we needed a quality centre forward.
A quality centre forward. So obvious where do you get them from then? As no one else is looking for one. Actually why did we go for Ayew and not Lukaku on loan.
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Team selection or formation or tactics. All 3 were poor
2 games ago we had just battered Burnley 2-0 so how was team selection, formation, or tactics poor in the last 3 games?

Say whatever you like, not a single person would have sanely suggested we change anything for the Brighton game. Would have been beyond daft to do so!

Brighton was an awful 45 minutes FROM THE PLAYERS, which we were never getting back from, regardless of what Roy could do with limited 'talent' on the bench. West Ham was a good chance for the players to put it behind them, which first half was reasonable, not brilliant by any stretch, but did enough, the bar stopping it being 2-0, yet again. The second half was shite and he could have altered some stuff.


This weekend is where he needs to make changes and change things up. If he doesn't then I will agree something has to give. Still not sure it is his fault though unfortunately for him. He's paying the price for years of over spending, on under performing and crocked players.
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Roy - Back or sack? (Poll)

Whilst I won’t necessary want it (because he’s a god guy), surely Roy is toast if we lose tomorrow. Two wins all season with Man City up next. He’s no fool and will know that. Come on Roy, pull it out the bag and turn our season around.
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Why is he toast?


He dug us out of a worse position with injuries etc.


We aren't anywhere near going under.
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