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View Poll Results: What should SP do after 13 games if next 4 league games are losses? | |||
Back! | 625 | 60.74% | |
Sack! | 196 | 19.05% | |
Back until January! | 178 | 17.30% | |
Moo/other?! | 30 | 2.92% | |
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Roy has done it time and time again in plenty of leagues across the continent.
To want him sacked is sheer lunacy and feels like when WBA sacked Pulis. We would regret it. |
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It's easy to cite that as an example because it worked out so spectacularly badly for WBA. In 4 games time we could easily be in the bottom 3 and then you could just as well compare it to sacking Holloway to bring in Pulis, sacking Pardew to bring in Allardyce etc. As per my previous post I think Roy will see us over the line but I think we're still at the stage where we could hope to achieve more than that from this season.
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#84
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Fair enough. If we're being technical, his name was 'Iain' either.
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Newcastle who went 2-0 up against Man U came to Selhurst with a massed defence, but we could have won that if Sakho had buried his chance (we had 62% of the possession in that game and a shot ratio of 16-6) and we hit the post. Wolves at home we had 67% possession twice as many shots. Even the Southampton game which I consider our worst partly due to a deflated atmosphere with Zaha out, it was an equal game with McCarthy their goalie being applauded for a good game, and we hit the bar again. In essence I don't think there is much wrong that a couple of goals or a striker with confidence can't solve. I don't see the wrong pics for the team unless it an argument over Schlupp v Meyer...but I think Meyer is being eased into it, and playing Schlupp (who had a good game against Everton) allows Zaha to come inside and also do less defending. As far as Subs are concerned that is probably Roy's weak spot, although he probably looks at his bench and has maybe two players he is happy to put on who might make a difference....that said I don't think Sorloth has been given a fair crack chance....if you don't play games in the Premiership, your not going to develop as a Premiership player. And yes I think we will pick up points from the big boys especially if Wickham gets good game time and plays well |
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Roy has to go for me. Despite doing an adequate job at the club last season in keeping the team up, he had 34 games to save our season, you'd expect most managers to do the same with our squad and quality backing. 9 games into the season now and Roy is yet to pick up on fundamental problems in key areas. The spine of our team is weak and the balace is all wrong. Although Cabaye arguably didn't have his best season in a Palace shirt last year, his ability to drop deep and pick up the ball in all kinds of area allowed Luka to play his game as the general. This season with Kouyate in the side, neither are quite sure what their role is. Kouyate is a shield not a box to box midfielder or a playmaker. Our best performance came away at the Hawthorns where Puncheon and Meyer had outstanding games, the midfield is calling out for a bit of quality which Meyer in particular if given the chances oozes. Why is Roy so reluctant to play these two. Another criticism is his inability to process the game in front of him, time after time Roy appears content and seems incapable or perhaps fearful of mixing it up and making a change. More than anything this gives the crowd a boost and just changes the dynamics, giving the opponents time to think. Where is a plan B? Does he have one? There is no coincidence that the late goals we are shipping are due to the lack of substitutes made by Roy. Although we appear to lack quality and depth, Roy has abundance of experience and there are options in the squad he can experiment with. Time to go I think
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He doesn't seem to want the ones we did, does he.
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If its not going to turn around before January then its unlikely to sufficiently improve for the next part of the season
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poor team selection? who is on the bench that should be playing? I can only think of meyer , who has fitness problems
you can't make three dynamic subs when the bench is championship standard. It is NOT Roy's fault
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Needs to be at least two offensive impact players on the bench imho
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#92
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Just can’t see him pulling us out this slump tbh
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#93
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Lets hope he does and I'm fully behind him till Jan and especially v The Arsenal . Not that that counts for much, I appreciate that . But it is 6 losses out of last 8 league games I think and 3 goals scored in that period ? That is cause for alarm now
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Yes, we need a striker. Yes, we need more midfield creativity. ( nothing new there ) But this isn't directly Roy's fault. He / the club gambled that either Benteke or Wickham would return to fitness / form and spent the little money we had on midfield trying to replace the losses of Cabaye and RLC. The gamble on Benetke and Wickham wasn't a daft one. Sorloth could have emeged by now. Ayew could have bedded in. I think the club did all it could considering the money we had to spend. The major problem we have had is converting chances and some of that is down to Benteke but let's not forget Roy had no hand in bringing him here. What Roy will do is drill us well. We're not leaking goals. We just need to take our chances better. A new manager won't help that. That's down to the players performing at a level we know they can reach and amending the striker issue hopefully in January. The main point is the team doesn't look clueless like under Holloway or Pardew. |
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You wait till we have beaten Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Man U in the next four games. He’ll be a genius again!
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If you put a pound on that....you'll lose a pound
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However if Steve Parish in his wisdom was to fire Roy before, then the most likely date should be after the West Ham game as we would by then have a clearer picture as to where we stand. So for me the most suitable person on that list to replace RH would be Quique Sanchez Flores without question, he has had premiership experience also his teams are well organized and play attractive football, and importantly is available without having to pay any compensation. |
#98
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Probably won't last until the January window by which time who knows how many points we won't have but i voted back as fundamentally it's most of the players who aren't performing to their best ability not the manager .
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#99
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It's so bloody depressing. Groundhog day every season.
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Roy needs a bright dynamic coach alongside him , one who can challenge him and one he can mentor . Part of a succession plan , along with about 40 million investment in January ( some players will need to go)
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