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Old 08-12-2018, 08:38 PM
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If the link I provided is true we spend we spend 240 grand a week on injured players, Dann, Wickham and Benteke.
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Jaïro Riedewald £7,900,000 - not good enough for the first team
Alexander Sørloth £9,000,000 - not good enough for the first team
Jarosław Jach £2,750,000 - barely good enough for the Turkish top divison
Christian Benteke £27,000,000 - huge loss of form, injuries
Jeffrey Schlupp £12,000,000 - only good enough for the bench
Connor Wickham £7,000,000 - long-term injury
Zeki Fryers £1,500,000 - barely good enough for league one
Jordon Mutch £5,750,000 - no comment necessary
Pape Souaré £3,400,000 - long-term injury, not in first team
Lee Chung-yong £1,000,000 - failed to make first team

That's nearly 80 million in transfer fees on players that aren't starting games.

But it's mostly the wages, I should think.
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Wickham has earned about 6 million since he got injured.

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Old 08-12-2018, 08:44 PM
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If the link I provided is true we spend we spend 240 grand a week on injured players, Dann, Wickham and Benteke.
Probably true but not their fault
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what happened to the other 20%? It's just profit for parish, on top of the huge money he has rightfully made for getting us thus far. If he's going to spin the 20% profit as being down to FFP he will be thought of in the same way as Noades and Jordan in no time at all. We won't all fall for the spin. That 20% to bring in the right attacking players is just what we need. Open the cheque book or sell up to someone who will.
You don't seem to understand finance very well, the 20% you are mystified about goes on running the club and paying off previous transfers which are paid in instalments.
He doesn't have the cheque book, he sold the majority of the club to the yanks, so why are you asking for something he has already done. Or did it pass you by.
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If the link I provided is true we spend we spend 240 grand a week on injured players, Dann, Wickham and Benteke.
I think there is insurance to cover some of that.

The worst reading is Mutch being paid a guaranteed £7.28m thanks to Pardew, Puncheon getting the same.

The figures appear to be wrong in some respects Ayew isn't on a 4 yr contract and Puncheon isn't 38 years old, so some doubt on other figures.
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what happened to the other 20%? It's just profit for parish, on top of the huge money he has rightfully made for getting us thus far. If he's going to spin the 20% profit as being down to FFP he will be thought of in the same way as Noades and Jordan in no time at all. We won't all fall for the spin. That 20% to bring in the right attacking players is just what we need. Open the cheque book or sell up to someone who will.
Are you suggesting that we are making a 20% profit?

You do realise the club has other costs than players wages.
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:23 PM
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Are you suggesting that we are making a 20% profit?

You do realise the club has other costs than players wages.
GF is a teacher, give him a break, he can't be expected to understand high falutin' finance (budgetting and book-keeping to you).
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GF is a teacher, give him a break, he can't be expected to understand high falutin' finance (budgetting and book-keeping to you).
Please tell me GF is not teaching our next generation.
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I'm sure there has indeed been dollops of bad management mixed in the bowl, but fans can't have it both ways.

The key reason appears to be wages, especially those being paid to Benteke, Sakho and Zaha. It's very easy to now be blaming management for agreeing such wages. But I certainly recall many on these forums complaining about the lack of transfer activity, and when the name of Benteke, and later Sakho, came up there were lots of comments along the lines of "Why do we always take so long to get signings over the line? Just pay them what's needed to get them here"

Similarly, when Wilf was negotiating a new contract, I don't recall reading many comments that we should let him go rather than pay him on a par with what he can get elsewhere. Rather than that, I recall people urging the management to spend "whatever it takes" (a phrase I read often) to tie him to the club

As I said, I'm by no means suggesting financial management has been good throughout. Far from it. But I also think there is some hypocrisy creeping into certain observations
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We have the 8th highest wage bill in the league.
Says it all.
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Nor can I but I can work out that the club has wasted money on sick notes and rubbish players.
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We have the 8th highest wage bill in the league.
Says it all.
Most of our players are gutless bottle jobs. Overpaid and generally shit. But they keep picking up their huge wages and they'll bottle it again next week.
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what happened to the other 20%? It's just profit for parish, on top of the huge money he has rightfully made for getting us thus far. If he's going to spin the 20% profit as being down to FFP he will be thought of in the same way as Noades and Jordan in no time at all. We won't all fall for the spin. That 20% to bring in the right attacking players is just what we need. Open the cheque book or sell up to someone who will.
As already said there are other wages to pay apart from the players, other costs such as maintenance, insurance, repairs, pitch, travel costs, kit, academy costs, medical, training ground etc that take up most of the remaining 20% or do you think that they are paid for out of thin air. As it happens our wages bill is worryingly high - most other clubs do not spend that high a percentage on wages.
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I was wondering who's paying the stewards' wages at West Ham today. There must have been about 20 on each corner from the station.
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..but if we hadn't bought the likes of benteke and sakho and paid wilf a high wage to keep him there would have been about 8 zillion posts on the BBS complaining that the board lack ambition
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