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Happy if he is here to cover luka , concerned if he is coming as a centre back , not tall enough in the modern game.
Koscielny is only an inch taller and he's not bad.
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And considering FdB played him cb whilst at ajax I suspect that's where he will play
Well Joel Ward is according to some websites (wiki) 6 foot 2 but would you play him at centre back by choice? I know their are a few exceptions but have my reservations. If he can leap like a gazelle then fine but not seen any evidence from the vidoes. Less concerned if hes in a back three . But real concerned if this money could have gone towards Sakho.

And quoting centre backs who have played in some of the best teams in the world where the majority of the time their midfielders and attackers have the ball, so very little defensive work is done is hardly a fair comparison.
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I see what you mean but we need four to five CBs and I could see Dann and Tomkins competing for the right side CB position, and Sakho and Ridewald competing for the left side. That would leave Kelly as fifth choice CB to use for emergencies. Plus Ridewald can play defebsive midfield and we don't have another player who can beyond Luka. I also imagine Ridewald could be used at LB with Schlupp competing more as a winger next season. Perhaps.

I'm also baffled by the Damo contract extension. I didn't see that coming last season and wouldn't expect him to play much this season. Saying that, I wouldn't be surprised if FDB sold him if we bring in the defenders he wants.
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Well Joel Ward is according to some websites (wiki) 6 foot 2 but would you play him at centre back by choice? I know their are a few exceptions but have my reservations. If he can leap like a gazelle then fine but not seen any evidence from the vidoes. Less concerned if hes in a back three . But real concerned if this money could have gone towards Sakho.

And quoting centre backs who have played in some of the best teams in the world where the majority of the time their midfielders and attackers have the ball, so very little defensive work is done is hardly a fair comparison.
I wouldn't play Joel ward centre back because he's a right back.


The bloke is 6ft. That isn't small. And most teams in the PL tend to play the ball on the deck these days.


And if the 'sakho money' buys him and 2/3 others that improve the squad then I'm all for it.
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He'll probably be fundamental to how De Boer wants us to play. Someone who can build from the back and relieve the pressure from the middle if we have to go back. Not to forget his versatility which will be important given our squad depth. The purpose of the Ajax model is so the players are capable of adapting in several positions throughout the system.
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The bloke is 6ft. That isn't small. And most teams in the PL tend to play the ball on the deck these days.


And if the 'sakho money' buys him and 2/3 others that improve the squad then I'm all for it.
Fair enough , different opinions . Still a high percentage of goals scored from set pieces. though .Given the evidence of last season id rather stick with proven quality in central defence but i get the alternative view . I prefer sams approach - buy if they are better than what we have .
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Fair enough , different opinions . Still a high percentage of goals scored from set pieces. though .Given the evidence of last season id rather stick with proven quality in central defence but i get the alternative view . I prefer sams approach - buy if they are better than what we have .
Well he might well be better. FdB knows him better than us, he seems to be very highly rated. Buying proven quality comes at a huge price.. one that we can't afford to keep doing. Unsustainable. I would love sakho back here but 30m can go along way.. and in FdB we have someone very very well connected
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Fair enough , different opinions . Still a high percentage of goals scored from set pieces. though .Given the evidence of last season id rather stick with proven quality in central defence but i get the alternative view . I prefer sams approach - buy if they are better than what we have .
We would still have several 6'+ players to defend (and attack) set pieces and we may be getting a new keeper which may change how we defend set pieces, for better or for worse.
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