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Palace Stats 18/19 (Whoscored.com)

In the pursuit of coming top of my Prem fantasy league at work I spend a fair amount of time checking out player stats on whoscored.com etc.

I know stats don't tell the full pictures but over a season its does paint a fairly good picture and are used more & more in sports/betting.

Thought I'd post a few I found interesting so far this season:

*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)

*Palace have the 15th lowest Possession with 45.8% (Chelsea 1st on 65.8% & Newcastle 20th with 6.53)

*Aaron Wan-Bissaka has the highest rating in the team with 7.51 with Joel Ward the lowest on 6.36 (Based on players playing over 90mins)

*Mamadou Sakho has a the highest pass success percentage with 91.4% with Christian Benteke bottom with 51.5% (Wayne Hennessey on 50.4)

*James McArthur tops the team for "Key passes per game" with 1.4

*James Tomkins comes out on top in regards to "Clearances per game" with 8

*Wilf Zaha tops the table for "Dispossessed per game" with 6 & "Bad Control per game" at 4.3
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*Wilf Zaha tops the table for "Dispossessed per game" with 6 & "Bad Control per game" at 4.3
Just shows how meaningless stats are..After his match winning wonder goal on Saturday, who cares if he gets dispossessed every now and again..
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*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)
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They have wilf weighing 66kg, 1 kg less than Meyer and 11kg less than Andros, maybe when he first started.
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*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)
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In the pursuit of coming top of my Prem fantasy league at work I spend a fair amount of time checking out player stats on whoscored.com etc.

I know stats don't tell the full pictures but over a season its does paint a fairly good picture and are used more & more in sports/betting.

Thought I'd post a few I found interesting so far this season:

*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)

*Palace have the 15th lowest Possession with 45.8% (Chelsea 1st on 65.8% & Newcastle 20th with 6.53)

*Aaron Wan-Bissaka has the highest rating in the team with 7.51 with Joel Ward the lowest on 6.36 (Based on players playing over 90mins)

*Mamadou Sakho has a the highest pass success percentage with 91.4% with Christian Benteke bottom with 51.5% (Wayne Hennessey on 50.4)

*James McArthur tops the team for "Key passes per game" with 1.4

*James Tomkins comes out on top in regards to "Clearances per game" with 8

*Wilf Zaha tops the table for "Dispossessed per game" with 6 & "Bad Control per game" at 4.3
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In the pursuit of coming top of my Prem fantasy league at work I spend a fair amount of time checking out player stats on whoscored.com etc.

I know stats don't tell the full pictures but over a season its does paint a fairly good picture and are used more & more in sports/betting.

Thought I'd post a few I found interesting so far this season:

*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)

*Palace have the 15th lowest Possession with 45.8% (Chelsea 1st on 65.8% & Newcastle 20th with 6.53)

*Aaron Wan-Bissaka has the highest rating in the team with 7.51 with Joel Ward the lowest on 6.36 (Based on players playing over 90mins)

*Mamadou Sakho has a the highest pass success percentage with 91.4% with Christian Benteke bottom with 51.5% (Wayne Hennessey on 50.4)

*James McArthur tops the team for "Key passes per game" with 1.4

*James Tomkins comes out on top in regards to "Clearances per game" with 8

*Wilf Zaha tops the table for "Dispossessed per game" with 6 & "Bad Control per game" at 4.3
Because of that last stat, the rest of it is meaningless
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What are the stats for running with the ball from 40 metres out, beating 4 men and scoring?
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In regards to the Wilf stat, hence the caveat that it doesn't tell the full picture, but also could highlight something he could do better and ultimately drag that team possession up higher and time spent in opposition third.

He easily comes out top for "offensive" stats so I guess that covers the "running with the ball from 40 metres out, beating 4 men and scoring"
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Palace Stats 18/19 (Whoscored.com)

Stats are always a good guide but donít always tell the whole picture. THe Zaha stat I would guess wouldnít take into account that he was more than likely clogged off the ball. I would imagine his stats for dribbling and take ons would be very high.

The one area I would be interested in is where we lose the ball compared to the back end of last season and my guess would be midfield.
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Newcastle average 6.53% possession?!! That can't be right!
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I suspect that's a typo.

The most misleading thing about possession stats is they are calculated based on the number of passes. So you could have a five second spell of quick, short passes, lose the ball to the opposition who run with it for ten seconds, and you'll be deemed to have had 100% possession.
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All these stats are just an americanisation of the game. All American sports are riddled with pointless stats about everything and I'm not a fan of it. Keep them simple and telling Goals, assists, ground covered, shots on target etc. are fine but do we really need to know everything??
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What does this mean?

*Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 (Man City 1st on 7.09 & Huddersfield 20th with 6.40)
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I suspect that's a typo.

The most misleading thing about possession stats is they are calculated based on the number of passes. So you could have a five second spell of quick, short passes, lose the ball to the opposition who run with it for ten seconds, and you'll be deemed to have had 100% possession.
Is that is true (which Im not suggesting it isnt) that is one of the most pointless things Ive heard. You could easily time the duration a team has possession. Passes are just passes. Possession stats doesnt mean that much, but now it means even less. It makes sense everyone was obsessed with possession at the same time as Tiki Taka, the small numious passes exactly boost possesion according to what you are saying.

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Yeah typo on the Newcastle stats, they have an average 37.4% possession (have played Spurs/Chelsea/Arsenal/City so far tbf)

The Palace are 6th Statistically in the league with a rating of 6.81 is exactly what it says, IF the league was based on player stats offensive/defensive ratings combined we are 6th in the imaginary statistical league - again pointless in reality but shows we are doing somethings well in my opinion

To think statistics/analytics alongside old school methods are not used in player scouting/pre-game prep is fairly naive.
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