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Old 31-12-2017, 09:17 PM
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Home cinema experts?

Thought this would be the best section for this but we are looking at a variety of options for upgrading a smallish cinema room (6 seats) that we gave up our garage for a while back. Pretty sure some of you will know a lot more than me so....

We are interested in upgrading our projector to 4K HDR and I will come back to that later if that’s OK. We ‘may’ also upgrade to Atmos from the 7.2 we have today. It’s all sounding a lot more expensive than we expected but would rather look at doing it ‘properly once now’ if we can so we can just enjoy it rather than do it incrementally. Can’t take it with you etc once we have added it all up we can downgrade components to fit what feels good value. We have had an Oppo 95 and had planned to upgrade to their best new model but are being pushed to look seriously at a Kaleidescape system. Basically a proprietary system comprising hard drives/Blu-ray player, digital shop that sells legit Blu-ray downloads etc. At 4K hdr or anything below. The idea that this would be used for the blockbuster ‘showoff’ Movies but other sources for the run of the mill stuff.

So long intro but I thought I could add further questions later if there are gurus out there.

1 - My first question is that iTunes have 4K movies but does anyone know how they differ from say the 4K hdr Blu-ray. I.e. are they cut down versions? I noticed that the 4kHDR Blu-ray cost about £25-30 and on Kaleidescape can sometimes be over £33. But iTunes are nothing like that currently.

2 - does anyone on here have Kaleidescape and if so what do you think?

3 - considering 3 different Sony projectors. The new laser one and the 2 models below that. So quite a price variance. Anyone know anything useful about these? The laser is pricey (cheap comparatively in am assured) but doesn’t have the hassle of bulbs and dimming etc over time and sounds remarkable by all accounts. If we do that it may trade off against quality of sound upgrades though.

Any insights welcomed. As info also being suggested we swap out our Anthem DV2 for an Arcam something or other. sheesh.
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I can't really help you as the owner of a lowly Optoma HD65 who's still waiting for 4K to get under a grand before upgrading but AVForums is usually the go to place for all AV talk and reviews, may be worth a post on there?

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I can't really help you as the owner of a lowly Optoma HD65 who's still waiting for 4K to get under a grand before upgrading but AVForums is usually the go to place for all AV talk and reviews, may be worth a post on there?

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Nothing wrong with The Optoma HD65. We have had a second hand Hd projector for a while and been tucking cash away for this for a while now. I have started reading the AVforums but I got the impression quite a few movie and AV buffs on here so thought I would give it a try here. I generally get better advice TBH Sometimes the avforum gets a bit carried away with stuff.

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Happy New Year to you also

Must admit being reasonably happy with the HD65 (onto an 84 inch screen) but I sort of wish the bulb would blow to give me an excuse to upgrade even if only to 1080p. Would have liked to upgrade the sound system a while ago but never got round to it. Sounds like one hell of a home cinema you're planning, hope it all comes together.
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Must admit being reasonably happy with the HD65 (onto an 84 inch screen) but I sort of wish the bulb would blow to give me an excuse to upgrade even if only to 1080p. Would have liked to upgrade the sound system a while ago but never got round to it. Sounds like one hell of a home cinema you're planning, hope it all comes together.
Yeah, it's in the dream stage right now and anything is affordable when you aren't handing over your credit card Later reality will kick in and we will no doubt 'get real' and scale things back. The laser would be a real stretch.

As an aside, the 'cinema' fund has been building by basically getting rid of a lifelong collection of 'stuff' that we have accumulated over the years or maybe hoarded is a better word. As we celebrate 40 years in November, that is a lot of accumulating and we even rent a small storage unit (stupid really) that we still have to empty and so you never know. It's tedious selling it but nice when you see it leave your drive and you even have notes in your hand I would still recommend it.
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Hey I've got loads 4k discs
They are good as u can get but streaming ala iTunes 4k is not that far behind
It's the lossy sound that can't compete with the sound carried on the discs
And sound is just as important as picture in a good AV system
Look into Auro3d set up
Much better than atmos imho
Avforum is great site
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Hey I've got loads 4k discs
They are good as u can get but streaming ala iTunes 4k is not that far behind
It's the lossy sound that can't compete with the sound carried on the discs
And sound is just as important as picture in a good AV system
Look into Auro3d set up
Much better than atmos imho
Avforum is great site
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Thanks. I did think it might be the sound that differed and I agree it does make a big difference. I will look at the Auro3D. Have you installed that?
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Nothing wrong with The Optoma HD65. We have had a second hand Hd projector for a while and been tucking cash away for this for a while now. I have started reading the AVforums but I got the impression quite a few movie and AV buffs on here so thought I would give it a try here. I generally get better advice TBH Sometimes the avforum gets a bit carried away with stuff.

Anyway thx and happy New Year
I agree, i love the "if you have £2,000 to spend, you may as well throw another £800 at it and get the COST800MORE one"
I normally look middleish of what people say, having said that the older I get & the worse my eyesight gets + Tinitus cant be arsed to spend too much on it anymore
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