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Old 29-07-2016, 04:37 PM
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Mortgage tax? Stamp duty? I don't remember ever paying either of those? Haven't bought a property for a long time, though.
There is an absolutely vicious law for falling behind on mortgage payments, mind.
Depends on the nature of the property and if you are buying from outside; new build, buying an existing place or in a development area (not sure on the last). Varies between the regions I believe (I only know Tropical to a small extent). But it is certainly a fair bit more than the UK on average when it all totals up. I'm sure locals with connections and expertise would be able to cut it.
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Not as things stand, there's a petition going round. I expect they'll sort something out but best to keep the pressure on.
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Depends on the nature of the property and if you are buying from outside; new build, buying an existing place or in a development area (not sure on the last). Varies between the regions I believe (I only know Tropical to a small extent). But it is certainly a fair bit more than the UK on average when it all totals up. I'm sure locals with connections and expertise would be able to cut it.
I did pay VAT, but I got it back one way and another.
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What about all those UK citizens who have retired to Spain/France etc. They will not have been working in those countries so not contributing - do they count? Or is that "positive residency"?
In Spain, it could be regarded as similar. You need NI to buy property or even if you rent then NI is advisable. You pay VAT on house purchase but it is also treated as a form of ID so used for all sorts. If you are there sufficiently, as most retirees will be, then you should take out residency.

France is different and unsure of all the ins & outs.
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Mortgage tax? Stamp duty? I don't remember ever paying either of those? Haven't bought a property for a long time, though.
There is an absolutely vicious law for falling behind on mortgage payments, mind.
I was asked recently by a Spaniard what was more expensive in Spain than where I live in England and I could only readily think of four things. Motorway tolls, McDonalds, buying a new house and some fruits imported out of season. Madrid and Barcelona may be different.
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I was asked recently by a Spaniard what was more expensive in Spain than where I live in England and I could only readily think of four things. Motorway tolls, McDonalds, buying a new house and some fruits imported out of season. Madrid and Barcelona may be different.
Just about anything at the drugstore as well.
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In Spain, it could be regarded as similar. You need NI to buy property or even if you rent then NI is advisable. You pay VAT on house purchase but it is also treated as a form of ID so used for all sorts. If you are there sufficiently, as most retirees will be, then you should take out residency.

France is different and unsure of all the ins & outs.
Isn't the NIE the non resident equivalent of an ID card or National Insurance number?
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Well we can double our 15% to 30 and still be 70% in fish stocks better off without the EU Pirates!
Cheap fish and Chips should only be available to out voters!
Out voters can have discount fish and chips (I'm allowing chips but potatoes aren't fished you know) if they foot the bill for the costs of Brexit.
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Just about anything at the drugstore as well.
Argh yes. I had some hey fever unexpectedly in May last year and a pack of tablets was 9 euros. The cheapest thing on the other hand are ciggies.
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Old 29-07-2016, 04:53 PM
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Isn't the NIE the non resident equivalent of an ID card or National Insurance number?
Not exactly non residents - it's what I have. Non nationals.
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Out voters can have discount fish and chips (I'm allowing chips but potatoes aren't fished you know) if they foot the bill for the costs of Brexit.
I'm sure the Irish will supply!
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Isn't the NIE the non resident equivalent of an ID card or National Insurance number?
Yes but in terms of the question raised by Mat/sw16girl, it may be equivalent IF the agreement on acquired rights is framed in those terms.
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Argh yes. I had some hey fever unexpectedly in May last year and a pack of tablets was 9 euros. The cheapest thing on the other hand are ciggies.
Yes, baccy is cheap as chips. Is your place in Alicante / Comunidad Valenciana?
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Yes but in terms of the question raised by Mat/sw16girl, it may be equivalent IF the agreement on acquired rights is framed in those terms.
From what I can see the big issue with leaving the EU in France and Spain will be capital gains tax. In France CGT when you sell a house is far higher for non EU citizens, often Russians. The other issue is inheritance tax which I think is weird in Spain. I might be wrong but I think a spouse has to pay inheritance tax when the partner dies? Although I'm not sure about that.
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Yes, baccy is cheap as chips. Is your place in Alicante / Comunidad Valenciana?
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From what I can see the big issue with leaving the EU in France and Spain will be capital gains tax. In France CGT when you sell a house is far higher for non EU citizens, often Russians. The other issue is inheritance tax which I think is weird in Spain. I might be wrong but I think a spouse has to pay inheritance tax when the partner dies? Although I'm not sure about that.
That depends on where you live. There is something weird like that in Catalunya, I think.
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I realise that this is considered small fry but an article on the relocation of the 2 EU agencies that the UK hosts: on the Banking Authority I suspect that the 2 countries cited here as front runners will not be the final home but if this is accurate then it may prove good news that the direction of travel seems to be not a big financial centre itself, as that colours the work of the agency & in turn that may not be good for UK's future non-EU financial services.
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Did anybody else not enjoy the irony of a poster called "Cake and eat it" telling El Aguila that he can't have his cake and eat it?
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Did anybody else not enjoy the irony of a poster called "Cake and eat it" telling El Aguila that he can't have his cake and eat it?
I did titter a bit to myself.

Anyway, this is interesting, I think. On the question of decentralisation, it's worth noting that the EBA and EMA are currently both located in London, whereas:

pain’s Deputy Prime-Minister Soraya Saez de Santa Marķa said on Thursday (28 July) that the central government will work “closely and in coordination” with the Catalonian government to “fight for Barcelona as the seat of EMA”.

First malaria vaccine given green light by European regulators

The world’s first malaria vaccine has been given the green light by European regulators and could protect millions of children in sub-Saharan Africa from the life-threatening disease.

She recalled that the city became second when London was elected to host the EU drugs agency. In order to strengthen the Spanish candidacy this time, she announced that the Ministry of Health is preparing to publish a report backing Barcelona’s bid.

As for the EBA, Spain is promoting Madrid as the ideal place to relocate the agency.

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But EU sources underlined that Spain and Italy already host numerous agencies, while five member states (Croatia, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia) have none.

Spain has three agencies: the EU Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) in Alicante, the European Agency for Safety and Health at Work (EU-OSHA) in Bilbao and the European Fisheries Control Agency (EFCA), in Vigo. It also hosts EU centres like the EU satellite Centre (Satcen) in Madrid, Fusion for Energy in Barcelona and a Joint Research Centre in Seville.
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