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Where else would I reside? In a society that doesnít exist? Even if there was a society that existed that I liked would it be a good thing to leave this one rather than try and change it?

I think a real socialist society could be achieved but think it would almost certainly need to be on a global level, I donít believe in socialism in one country.

I donít think social democracy for a minority of the global population is the limit of attainment for humanity (which would be depressing). You might disagree but not sure why it winds you up so much if I donít.
middle paragraph is utopian nonsense.

The last para is also pretty iffy straw man stuff. No one has suggested what you have about social democracy.

I'm not wound up at all just pointing out the flaws in your position.
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middle paragraph is utopian nonsense.

The last para is also pretty iffy straw man stuff. No one has suggested what you have about social democracy.

I'm not wound up at all just pointing out the flaws in your position.
You still seem to miss the point that social democracy depends on the wider exploitation of global capitalism. Not what you are suggesting that could be better than that given youíve written off socialism.
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You aren't going to get from where we are to where you want to be in a single step, so the question should be what is the next step that takes us in that direction? That should be your aim. When we've got there, then what is the next step?
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I see another rich Brexit backer is fleeing the UK, & his name, brilliantly, is pronounced Rat Cliff.
Sir Rat Cliff please, he has been knighted for his services to business.....
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